Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!yale!bunker!hcap!hnews!300!3!Pat.Goltz From: Pat.Goltz@f3.n300.z1.fidonet.org (Pat Goltz) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: Commonwealth Games Message-ID: <10158@bunker.UUCP> Date: 13 Feb 90 15:14:58 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: Pat.Goltz@f3.n300.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:300/3 - UA Today, Tucson AZ Lines: 55 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 6748 Heh. I don't recall saying anything about nude interview shows! And I don't get cable. Not likely to in the foreseeable future. I don't exactly live in the Outback, but it will probably be years before they find it economically feasible to wire my neighborhood for cable. I am much more likely to get a satellite dish. Hmmm. You pose an interesting question. Is sign language deserving of special treatment? I would tend to look on the practical side of that question. It is customary for a country to have an official language. As such, it seems reasonable that all television broadcasts should have their narration in that language. I think the maximum number of official languages a country has is four. I could see such a nation broadcasting on two TV channels, and each channel handles two of the languages. Each channel trades off which is used for narration and which for captions for a given program. In some cases, that would not be necessary, because the languages are spoken in regions. This is true of Switzerland, for example. India is a country with a much bigger problem, but again, I think it's regional. If a country has an extensive cable system, the cable companies could provide dubbed versions of events like the Commonwealth Games. In most instances, it seems to make sense to require all ethnic minorities to be fluent in the official language of the country. Those who cannot understand enough usually get cut out, and I see no practical way to remedy this. Most people have the mental capacity to learn the official language of a country. I think that requiring this is not unreasonable in light of the fact that I had a profoundly retarded relative who was bilingual, and who learned English late in life. On the other hand, the deaf pose a special problem. You cannot lipread a narrator who is not on the screen. Nor can you lipread a person who is not turned to face you. It makes sense to me to put a signer in the corner of the screen. Even if we required all deaf schoolchildren to learn to lipread, it doesn't seem reasonable to cut them out in this situation. I think it is quite reasonable to put the signer in the corner of the screen. I would welcome her being there, because it would help me learn sign. Sign poses a special problem for me to learn, because I cannot learn it by the methods I usually use to learn a language. Having this opportunity would be most welcome. And I think that it would be good for society to accept the presence of a signer on a significant number of TV programs. The deaf have a peculiar problem inasmuch as their situation makes COMMUNICATION more difficult. Most physical problems people face do not pose a problem for communication. I think it is only just for the hearing world to make SOME effort to help out. It is no worse than providing wheelchair ramps, costwise, or other kinds of access. It seems reasonable. Not because I am trying to single out one group for special treatment, but because the problems of the deaf communicating with a hearing world are really a completely different set of problems from people communicating with others in a different spoken language than their mother tongue. Looks like this deserves some discussion here! Pat -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!300!3!Pat.Goltz Internet: Pat.Goltz@f3.n300.z1.fidonet.org