Xref: utzoo news.groups:17702 news.admin:8301 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!hplabs!nsc!pyramid!csg From: csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) Newsgroups: news.groups,ba.news.config,news.admin Subject: Re: Internet rules (was: map question) Message-ID: <101839@pyramid.pyramid.com> Date: 13 Feb 90 04:50:35 GMT References: <267@hplabs.HPL.HP.COM> <101264@pyramid.pyramid.com> <1990Feb8.012051.7798@vicom.com> <4440@fernwood.MPK.CA.US> <1990Feb11.225848.23276@vicom.com> <10810@saturn.ADS.COM> Reply-To: csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) Followup-To: news.admin Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA Lines: 23 There is nothing new here. It has long been known by Usenet/Internet old hands that USENET crosses over the line of what types of traffic are supposed to be passed over the research Internets. The same was and is true of many of the Internet mailing lists, many of which now use Netnews and NNTP as a transport protocol. Back when NNTP was brand new (three, four years ago?), there was a lot of concern about this. It was generally accepted that some day, in the indefinite future, USENET would lose its privilege of running across the research Inter- nets, perhaps very soon. Not only hasn't that happened, but if anything USENET is more accepted now than then. There was a lot of concern that DARPA, CSNet, and other "officials" allowed USENET traffic simply because they didn't know what it was. When we were considering joining CSNet, I asked them about USENET traffic. They understood exactly what I meant, and had no objections at all. For the paranoid types, the solution is commercial internets, instead of re- search. Nysernet is offering a commercial IP network around New York, and the UUNet AlterNet service is now coming on line. Expect others in the future. [Followups directed to news.admin, where they belong. News.groups is not read by news administrators.]