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From: mark@sickkids.UUCP (Mark Bartelt)
Newsgroups: ont.uucp
Subject: Cruddy peripherals (was Re: Is it time for a "uunet-north"?)
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Date: 7 Feb 90 10:42:06 GMT
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In article <1990Feb6.171326.15603@utzoo.uucp>
henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes:

> I'm still disgusted that a 3/180 can't run a 2400-baud uucp line at full
> speed -- the 44 could.)

Gack!  That's truly appalling.  (I've never had to deal with Suns, and
wasn't aware how awful their serial I/O stuff was.)

We can handle uucp at 2400 baud on our IBM XTs!  (With Venix/86, that is.
I'm fairly certain that DOS+UUPC can go even faster, but it's undoubtedly
a fairer comparison to match the two UNIXes.)  And we all know what a pile
of junk those boxes are.  What's more, the 2400 baud is with the standard
IBM serial card, which easily meets the cruddiness characteristics of the
computer itself; you can certainly do 4800 baud uucp (under Venix) if you
equip your XT with a decent serial I/O board; possibly 9600, I'm not sure.
I presume that the 286 boxes (not quite as appallingly bad as the XTs, but
still not terribly likely to win any major awards) would do better yet.

I hope the designers at Sun are appropriately embarrassed.

Mark Bartelt                    INTERNET: mark@sickkids.toronto.edu
Hospital for Sick Children                mark@sickkids.utoronto.ca
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