Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!ucsd!ucbvax!CU.NIH.GOV!RAF From: RAF@CU.NIH.GOV (Roger Fajman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc Subject: Re: Default routes in PC/TCP Message-ID: <9002170000.AA23013@alw.nih.gov> Date: 17 Feb 90 00:03:08 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 17 > I think the routing substrate ought to be as much of a black box to > the hosts as is possible, with communication between the hosts and > routers happening in a formalized way, say via a protocol. > Eavesdropping is leaving yourself open for a lot of problems in the > future. I agree with this, but don't know how to explain to people that they can't do their work because a router is down and the elegant solution to the problem is still under construction. RIP is a special case, because there are already a lot of hosts that understand it and it's fairly easy to put just a default route out onto a network. I don't suggest eavesdropping on any other protocol. And it's really just a temporary expedient until gateway discovery and dead router discovery are implemented. As far as I've heard, a protocol for dead router discovery is not even under discussion yet. So it's going to be a long while before this problem is solved the right way.