Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!wyse!vsi1!teraida!netcom!hue From: hue@netcom.UUCP (Jonathan Hue) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware Subject: Re: (Non) Square Pixels? Message-ID: <7217@netcom.UUCP> Date: 14 Feb 90 07:12:33 GMT References: <4687@lmrc.uucp> <3119@cello.UUCP> <4736@lmrc.uucp> <3053@d75.UUCP> Followup-To: alt.stupidity Organization: NetCom- The Bay Area's Public Access Unix System {408 249-0290 guest} Lines: 76 >>In article <3119@cello.UUCP>, robin@sabre.uucp (Robin D. Wilson/1000000) writes: >>> Most monitors (and TV's do not have "square" pixels. Most have round or oval >>> shaped pixels. In fact, the only monitors that I know to have square pixels CRTs don't have pixels, frame buffers do. If I have a three tube camera displaying its picture on a television, there aren't any pixels. Pixel stands for picture element. In this case the picture has neither been quantized nor sampled, so how can there be picture elements? The useful parameters about a monitor are bandwidth, pitch, horizontal scan rate, and vertical retrace rate. The number of pixels in either dimension is not meaningful as it depends on the device driving it, although recently monitor vendors have been adding an x by y resolution spec in their literature, mainly to help non-technical customers figure out whether or not a monitor will work with their frame buffer. For example, when I worked at JVC (the inventors of the multiple scan rate monitor, by the way) we had a monitor with 125MHz bandwidth, which could sync to horizontal scan rates from 31.5KHz to 75KHz. The typical frame buffer that drove it with a 31.5KHz horizontal scan rate was 640x480, at 75KHz it was 1280x1024. I guarantee you that we did not make the phosphor dots ("pixels", by your definition) shrink to half their size when we did this. >>> are the high-end Sony's similar to the one Apple uses for the MacII. (The >>> Apple color monitor for the MacII is a modified Sony.) The Sony Trinitron CRT uses vertical metal strips for the mask, stabilized by two (faintly visible) horizontal wires, and a vertical stripe phosphor. If you are going to call these "pixels" (which nobody does), then the pixels are rectangles as they are the entire height of the screen. When the phosphor is illuminated by the electron beam, it does not expose a single stripe or single phosphor dot. The spot size of the beam is usually larger than the pitch of the tube, meaning the beam shines through multiple openings in the mask, so multiple stripes or spots are exposed. BTW, the profile of the electron beam strength across its diameter approximates a Gaussian distribution. Just a bit of trivia - A Sony Trinitron tube has two advantages over the delta gun/delta mask CRT. First, a larger percentage of the tube is covered with phosphor compared to the delta mask or slotted mask type of CRT. This is responsible for a 33% increase in brightness. Second, the the beam current can be increased without damaging the mask, (I think this is because it dissapates heat better, being mostly holes) which gives a 50% increase in brightness. 1.33 x 1.50 equals a 2x increase in brightness. >Also, on my NEC 3D there is an adjustment to increase the distance between the >pixels from right to left (thus making the screen wider, and changing the >aspect ratio from that perspective) and another adjustment that changes the >ratio from top to bottom. It sure helps me to get a 1 to 1 aspect ratio on my >stuff. (I'm not sure how NEC does this, but I think it may have something to >do with changing the shape of the tension masks.) This is plainly ridiculous. The phosphor on the screen is carefully aligned with the electron guns through the mask, usually by applying the phosphor to the tube with a photoresist, and exposing the tube through the mask from a light source located where the guns normally are. If the geometry of the mask was somehow changed, this alignment would be lost and it would be impossible to display a color picture. The only think the mask does is expand slightly due to heating caused by the electron beam. On some monitors the mask frame is held in place by bimetallic clamps, which moves the mask toward the tube face as it heats up. This keeps the mask and phosphor aligned during changes in temperature. All that the knobs on the NEC do is decrease the current through the deflection coils, which reduces strength of the magnetic field applied across the yoke of the tube. This slows the beam deflection rate across the face of tube and causes a smaller area of the CRT to be exposed. A Commodore 1084S can do this. Followups to alt.stupidity. -Jonathan