Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!aplcen!haven!grebyn!allen From: allen@grebyn.com (Allen Farrington) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware Subject: Re: 50 MHz MC68040 capabilities? Summary: Be Very Careful When Discussing System Designs Keywords: CPU DRAM 386 Message-ID: <19411@grebyn.com> Date: 20 Feb 90 23:55:06 GMT References: <1129@mindlink.UUCP> <9691@cbmvax.commodore.com> <1013@metaphor.Metaphor.COM> Reply-To: allen@grebyn.UUCP (Allen Farrington) Organization: ERGOSoft Products, Chantilly, VA, USA Lines: 35 In Article 238 of comp.sys.amiga.hardware: >Where are the boards with Cache? >We're paying big bucks for speedup boards now that could buy us >386's with more efficient design. Anybody care to comment? >-Dallas "Down with Wait States" Hodgson Let's be real careful when talking about cache. Cache is expensive, very expensive--$600+ for 64KB. The bottom line is that any SYSTEM which does not use a cache will be limited to about 14MHz (70nS DRAM) memory execution. Beware of super-fast boards which execute at 25-28-33MHz and have no cache. Over the past several years, CPU technology has far outstripped other sub-system technology. All this adds up to a CPU spending a lot of wait-states in instruction fetches. An example is Intel's 386/133 Multibus II single board computer. It has a 386 running at 33MHz. It also has a cache (I forget how large). The point is, this board contains 16MB of DRAM with an 8/16 wait-state penalty for missing the cache/cache and page, respectively. I don't agree that any 386's have an inherently more efficient design over the standard Amiga with an accelerator board. I do agree that a 386 with 64KB of cache is more efficient than the stock Amiga. Perhaps we need a large cache card for the 2630 or other accelerators. --Allen -- |------------------------------------------| | Allen H. Farrington (703) 222-9612 | "It's like nothing we've ever | allen@grebyn.com | dealt with before." |------------------------------------------| -Mr. Spock