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From: rtp1@tank.uchicago.edu (raymond thomas pierrehumbert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: Can C-Kermit run through ttyp's and telnet?
Message-ID: <7702@tank.uchicago.edu>
Date: 19 Feb 90 19:05:34 GMT
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All the Mac implementations of Kermit I know are designed to work 
over the serial line using raw Kermit protocals (i.e. not Appletalk,
which also can go out over the serial line).  No amount of tty 
setting, hacking, etc. on the Apollo will change this.  On your
PC or mac you need to have some way to redirect the stream to the
TCP/IP handler.  With most telecomm applications, this cannot be done
without recoding and recompiling (with the Mac communications toolbox, that
may eventually change).
    Sometimes, I feel I'd like to use Versaterm Pro on my mac to communicate
over Ethernet (instead of telnet), but mostly THERE IS NO NEED TO KERMIT
OVER A TCP/IP NETWORK.  It is inefficient, as Kermit does all sorts of 
packetizing and error checking which just duplicates what you get
built in to TCP/IP.  If you want to transfer files to/from a PC or
mac on Ethernet (or other net + bridge), use NCSA Telnet, which is free
and has FTP built in.
    On the other hand, when I log in to a unix box over the phone
lines from my Mac, then telnet to my APollo from there, I can
run kermit (Versaterm Pro on the Mac side, c-kermit on the APollo
side) with no problem , as long as the comm link is 8-bits/no parityt
all the way through.
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