Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!pro-sol.cts.com!ruzun From: ruzun@pro-sol.cts.com (Roger Uzun) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: benchmarking compilers vs. processors Message-ID: <16859.apple.net@pro-sol> Date: 17 Feb 90 00:52:54 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 17 In-Reply-To: message from dlyons@Apple.COM >> Comment from David Lyons about benchmarks and C compilers. You are quite right, the benchmarks in general test the system with it compiler. They bench the system and compiler together, and are unfair to the system if the compiler is of low quality. The fact that there are a lot of high quality 680x0 compilers are a big plus for that architecture in my opinion. However note that lichty and eyes, in their 65816 book, indicate that the 65816 is not as fast as a similar clocked 68000 for the sieve benchmark in optimized assembler. They further state that the sieve is a good indication of cpu performance. Note that the 68030 is 6 times faster than a 68000 at the same clock rate, if the 68000 is 0 wait states and the 68030 uses a 1 wait state, burst mode enabled design. All in all, a 65816 system could probably not achieve 1/4th the speed, in hand optimized assembly benchmarks, of a 68030 system clocked at the same speed. -Roger