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From: martya@cpl-mfh.UUCP (Marty Adelman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: develop, Dynamo, and life in general
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Date: 16 Feb 90 02:57:15 GMT
References: <22132@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>
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Organization: Clinical Pharmacokinetics Lab, SUNY at Buffalo
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*** In article <22132@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>,
*** fadden@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Andy McFadden) writes:
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>
>In article <38644@apple.Apple.COM> mjohnson@Apple.COM (Mark B. Johnson) writes:
>>You are not paying for the CD-ROM in essence in the subscription.  The cost
>>of the CD-ROM is so minimal (less expensive than diskettes) that the
>>subscription price really wouldn't change...its just an extra that you get
>>with the subscription.
>
....misc more stuff
>
>Many developers are *not* large businesses.  If you want to help people
>develop on your machine, you use the cheapest possible media which is
>available to the widest possible audience.  Apple is turning development
>into cable TV... you want the shows, you pay the price.
>
.... misc more stuff


Thanks Andy, you saved me from typing in my own long reply.  I'm not a student
but I have owned an Apple computer in one form or another since 1978.  The Mac
is a hobby to me, at work I subsist on IBM's (oh horror !!) mainly because of
cost considerations (clones you know.)  I have been a member of the local
Apple users group since about 78 also and on the board of directors since
1981.  I give out a lot of free advice and have been responsible for the sale
of hundreds of Apple systems without charging a consulting fee.  I enjoy
hacking on my macintosh for myself and the folks I deal with in the group, but
slowly and surely Apple has been raising the price of my hobby.  I could not
afford to become an Apple Partner, kind of a high price for my hobby, I also
do not desire to purchase a CD Rom, as far as I'm concerned it serves no 
useful purpose if I'm only gonna look at 1 or 2 cd's.  Slowly but surely
Apple is telling me that they are not interested in my support.  I still haven
t upgraded my //e to a iigs because I felt that Apple was only toying with
the // series and not commiting real resources to that product line.

While I do appreciate what Apple has done and I really appreciate you guys
in DTS, I feel that Apple feels that the support you provide should at least
pay for itself, not realizing that the good will  and support generate 
increased system sales.  Anyway I digress, thanks for your answers Mark and
your concern, but in the real world people have other expenses and can't afford
to shell out the $1000 or so a year that Apple requires if you wish to keep up
with them.  I would really like to hear answers from some marketing managers
as to their strategies for the 90's, it could save us all a lot of money.

But once again I'm a dreamer 8-)


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Clinical Pharmacokinetics Laboratory     UUCP: !sunybcs!cpl-mfh!martya
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