Xref: utzoo comp.sys.amiga:50107 comp.sys.atari.st:25404 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ncar!mephisto!mcnc!thorin!johnson!oliver From: oliver@johnson.cs.unc.edu (Bill Oliver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Manipulation of Courtroom Evidence Keywords: video graphics computer alter evidence Message-ID: <12098@thorin.cs.unc.edu> Date: 16 Feb 90 20:17:11 GMT References: <102034@pyramid.pyramid.com> Sender: news@thorin.cs.unc.edu Reply-To: oliver@johnson.cs.unc.edu (Bill Oliver) Organization: University Of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Lines: 83 In article <102034@pyramid.pyramid.com> wniren@pyrtech (Walter Nirenberg) writes: > >Photos and videos are still admissable as courtroom evidence in most >situations. However, with these new "advances", can we trust these >forms any more? Think of the impact..a criminal could possibly be >let loose based on a photo showing someone else perpetrating the crime. >Newspapers and TV networks could change what the public sees. We're >talking about a tremendous potential for "disinformation" to quote >our wonderful government (by the way, isn't that a fancy word to mean >"to lie"?). > I am a forensic pathologist, and have acted as an expert witness in numerous trials. I almost always bring photos along with me, which counsel uses as evidence. As far as I know, photographic evidence that *I* am involved with, and all the photographic evidence that I have ever seen admitted from other scene investigators has always been admitted only on the conditions that 1) It can be shown that the photo is a "true and accurate representation," of what was there, and 2) It has usefulness in explaining my or some other investigator's testimony, e.g. it is not admitted as evidence in and of itself. Your question is about problem (1). The way this is almost always done is for the person who took the photo to be on the stand and testify thay this is, indeed, a true and accurate representation. Thus, if I took the photo, then I would be the one who did the testifying that the photo is not tampered with. The tampering question is an old one for us folk who do autopsies, but the question was of tampering with the body rather than with the photo. For instance, let's say that John Doe has been shot in the stomach. John survives long enough to get to a hospital, where they open his abdomen to try and close off the bleeding arteries, but he dies anyway. Joe's body comes to the morgue with this itty-bitty hole in the belly, and a huge old surgical wound running right through it. Defense will often get any photographs of the wound ruled inadmissible because of the gross looking surgical wound -- the judge will rule that the jury will react viscerally (no pun intended) to the large wound, rather than intellectually to the evidence of the bullet wound. I have also had photos ruled out because there was too much free blood. The wound wasn't cleaned (I often take one shot uncleaned and one cleaned), and bloody wounds often look much larger than they are, expecially in photos. I have also had one ruled out because skin traction caused a knife wound to gape open, again making it appear larger, in some sense, than it really was. Thus, when I take a morgue shot, I often spend a lot of time carefully draping towels, arranging the body, etc. to hide any extraneous stuff in order to make my photos of the wound admissible. Then, when I get on the stand, I testify that the photo is a true and accurate representation, with the exception of whatever modifications I have made. I suspect that digitization problems will be handled the same way. Since photographic evidence is almost always admitted only as an "illustration" of personal testimony, it will ultimately be admissible to modify a photo to "clean up" extraneous stuff, as long as somebody is there to testify that the stuff appropriate to the case is true and accurate. Haggling over what consitutes "cleaning up" and what should be left in is something that counsel should get settled during disclosure. As far as the question of being able to sneak in a modified photo, this has always been a possibility and this is why 1) it is usually admitted only as "illustrative" evidence, and 2) there has to be someone there to hang for perjury. The precedents are pretty much there already. Now, the ease of proving perjury might be made very much more difficult. But that is a different question. Bill Oliver