Xref: utzoo comp.sys.mac:48628 comp.text:6395 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!paperboy!snorkelwacker!apple!chuq From: chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.text Subject: Re: Recommendations on buying an Adobe typeface? Message-ID: <38640@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 14 Feb 90 18:21:34 GMT References: <1914@lafcol.UUCP> Organization: Fictional Reality: where your dreams can come true Lines: 54 buyskes@lafcol.UUCP (Steven Buyske) writes: >I'd like to suggest owners of one of >the Adobe typefaces beyond the LW+ set post a note about what they like >about it and why, and what they use it for. I think we should pay >particular attention to how they look at 300dpi resolution. >For a text >face people have recommended New Baskerville and Lucida. Any >recommendations? Garamond is also trendy, but is rumored to lose its >flavor at 300dpi. Any experience out there? Typefaces are fun. (speaking of cheap typefaces, anyone else notice that Adobe is going to be bundling a bunch of their display faces into new, lower-cost packages? Fun stuff). I use two text faces a lot: ITC Garamond and ITC Galliard. Garamond is a really nice, distinctive font. It's best on a high resolution imagesetter, but I don't think it really loses anything at 300dpi at 12 points or more. If you need to put a lot of text into a relatively small area, it's compact without being unreadable. I use Garamond at 10pt a lot, which isn't really fair to the typeface, but I think even at that size, while it loses some of it's appeal, it's still an improvement over Times Roman. Other pluses for garamond: it's got a very strong boldface that shows up and doesn't wash out under Xerography. It's italic is acceptable, even in relatively large chunks. Galliard Roman is another nice text face. I think it's a better face at 10pt than Garamond, but it's got a much weaker bold face that essentially disappears under Xerography (on the other hand, I switched over to using small caps instead of bold, which is one less face to download and I think is a reasonable alternative). The italic is, frankly, really ugly at 300dpi and is unreadable at smaller than 12pt for more than a word or two. I've got an occaisonal block of italic in OtherRealms that I had to move to 12pt just to make it minimally readable. If you make heavy use of bold or italic, Galliard's probably not a great choice. For display faces, I've used a lot of Univers (and condensed Univers). I find it just different enough from Helvetica to be distinctive without calling attention to itself, but it's still a good, solid san serif. I'm currently using some Benguiat as well and I like it as a headline face better than Univers for things that don't need to be quite as formal. I've tried Friz Quadrata, and it was okay, but I prefer Benguiat. I find that neither Futura or Optima (sigh) work well at all at 300dpi. At that resolution, they're only distant cousins of the typefaces I want to work with. Optima's subtleties just defeat a laser printer. -- Chuq Von Rospach <+> chuq@apple.com <+> [This is myself speaking] Rumour has it that Larry Wall, author of RN, is a finalist in the race for the Nobel Peace Prize for his invention of the kill file.