Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!aplcen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!wizard.cis.ohio-state.edu!jgreely From: jgreely@wizard.cis.ohio-state.edu (J Greely) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: logout Message-ID: Date: 16 Feb 90 13:59:24 GMT References: <1990Feb16.103722.2811@Neon.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Reply-To: J Greely Organization: Ohio State University Computer and Information Science Lines: 41 In-reply-to: jonas@Neon.Stanford.EDU's message of 16 Feb 90 10:37:22 GMT In article <1990Feb16.103722.2811@Neon.Stanford.EDU> jonas@Neon.Stanford.EDU (jonas karlsson) writes: >the only (ha ha. joke.) thing that annoys me about the NeXT is that to >logout i need to click on the NeXT icon in the dock, click on logout (or >hit command-q) click again to confirm that,yes, i'm going through all of this >to actually logout. now, my idea of what logout should be is to hit >ctrl-D and then leave. That's great for a shell, but when you have a window system that may have several applications with unsaved files, the one-key approach is dangerous. My problems with the NeXT logout are 1) a keystroke equivalent is provided for logout, but not for the confirmation, and 2) they quietly changed the default action on the confirmation dialog box from yes to no, and supplied no method for getting the old behavior back. >Are others annoyed at this? As far as i understand, NeXT's philosophy is >that you *shouldn't* logout. and the reason for not having "logout" >as the default button is that "logging out is a big thing" and you want >to be really sure that you want to do this. comments? Logging out *is* a big thing now. Under 0.8, logging out would message all open applications to save files and exit, which (apparently) proved to be impractical. Now you can lose work, so it makes sense for the default action to be the safe one. I just wish I could change it ("yes I know the consequences of logging out, and I really meant to do it"). Actually, it would be nice if all multiple- choice dialog boxes could be handled completely from the keyboard, perhaps by defining command-1 through command-0 as the choices, from left to right. Logout would be a quick command-q, command-1 sequence (ok, that might actually be *too* quick for comfort). "It's hard to create a truly bad printing configuration, but you may find the following rules helpful." -- from "UNIX System Administration Handbook", Chapter 11 -- J Greely (jgreely@cis.ohio-state.edu; osu-cis!jgreely)