Xref: utzoo comp.unix.aix:543 comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt:1399 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!hoptoad!gnu From: gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix,comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt Subject: Re: Risc System/6000 Message-ID: <10307@hoptoad.uucp> Date: 19 Feb 90 06:41:26 GMT References: <4115@ibmpa.UUCP> Organization: Grasshopper Group in San Francisco Lines: 52 > . . . POWERstations and POWERservers . . . I like the way they adopted the Sun Marketing naming convention (SPARCstations and SPARCservers). > . . . a complete system starting at $12,995. Including OS and window system? Manuals? Ethernet? Compilers? In the original RT/PC announcement a few years ago, the lowball price didn't even include a keyboard or monitor, which cost $thousands! One analysis showed that if Sun had charged as much for Unix as IBM, they could've thrown in the workstation for free! Also, one breakdown I saw was that this system only has four slots -- and all of them are in use. No expandability. > Documentation is available on a 5.25-inch compact disc > (CD-ROM) that may be accessed from the user's POWERstation or from a > network POWERserver. At extra cost > IBM announced industry-leading graphical user interfaces . . . > available as separate licensed programs. Customers can choose the > interface most applicable to their environments. At extra cost > IBM announced a one-year warranty that includes 24-hour, > seven-day-a-week availability of hardware service. Full software > service is included in the license charge. License charge? For a warranty? Oh, I get it! If you buy the Unix from them, you are forced to buy full software support for it! Well, no problem, I'm sure there are lots of third party vendors selling Unix for the RIOS... > In addition, IBM has significantly increased its number of skilled > systems engineers to assist customers in the design, configuration, > installation and support of the RISC System/6000 family. I heard from a usually reliable source that there are TWO people in the Bay Area who are trained to configure and repair these machines. That's a "significant increase" from last year, when there were NONE! > IBM also announced SystemXtra for the RISC System/6000 family, a fee > service . . . . . . . . . . . . total service solution . . . At extra cost. -- John Gilmore {sun,pacbell,uunet,pyramid}!hoptoad!gnu gnu@toad.com Just say *yes* to drugs. If someone offers you a drug war, just say no.