Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!mailrus!ncar!jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu From: jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan,8292,X1243,ML44E) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: 21st Century UN*X - Bugs?? Message-ID: <6327@ncar.ucar.edu> Date: 16 Feb 90 16:48:22 GMT References: <2198@syma.sussex.ac.uk> Sender: news@ncar.ucar.edu Lines: 52 From article <2198@syma.sussex.ac.uk>, by stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen D Carter): : > the following appeared in an *editorial* column of 'Computer Weekly' : > As currently programmed not a single system using Unix > will be able to come to grips with the 21st Century. : So, what else is new? This is one of those statements that is both completely true and patently false. UNIX is like George Washington's Ax (you know the old story: "We replaced the handle back in 19xx when it rotted away... and we replaced the head in 19yy when it rusted to pieces"). UNIX will survive, albeit perhaps under other names, because it is not an operating system but rather an approach, a philosophy. The kernel can be replaced, the file system can be replaced, shells can be replaced, and still be recognizable as UNIX. UNIX has been around since 1969, yet hasn't much or even most of its code has been replaced or at least heavily modified at one time or another? Heck, look at OS/360... I was a systems programmer on IBM mainframes in a previous reincarnation, and worked on OS/MFT, OS/MVT, OS/SVS and OS/MVS, and despite the fact that most of the subsystems in OS/360 have been replaced, it's still recognizable. I assert that the statement above is true for ANY current production operating system, particular those that have been in use since the 1960's, like OS/360 and UNIX (1969?). The question is not whether UNIX will survive _in its current form_, but whether it's placed to evolve more easily into something that _does_ survive, more so than other current operating systems. "As currently programmed" is the key phrase. Since I can go to Radio Shack and buy for under a grand a computer that will outperform the first IBM 360/65 I ever worked on, I don't find this statement that radical. The ability to advance the leading edge of technology is constrained by the ability to prune the trailing edge. -- Charles Dickens (Stanford) Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their own vision. -- Ayn Rand -- John Sloan NCAR/SCD NSFnet: jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu AMA #515306 P.O. Box 3000 UUCP: ...!ncar!jsloan DoD #000011 Boulder CO 80307 Voice: +1 303 497 1243 Logical Disclaimer: belong(opinions,jsloan).belong(opinions,_):-!,fail.