Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc Path: utzoo!sq!ian From: ian@sq.sq.com (Ian F. Darwin) Subject: 3D OpenLook a winner (was Re: Re^2: OSF/Motif vs. NeWS vs. SUN/Open Windows vs. ?) Message-ID: <1990Feb14.201536.29437@sq.sq.com> Reply-To: ian@sq.com (Ian F. Darwin) Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto References: <671@tci.bell-atl.com> <1907@cbnewsi.ATT.COM> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 90 20:15:36 GMT steven.mikes (smikes@cbnewsi.ATT.COM) writes: > [lots deleted] > I believe that there is currently enough room for both OpenLook [a really fine > product in its own right] and Motif. Neither is a standard; we are talking > less than 60,000 end users in the entire world! Well said! We sometimes forget the numbers. > ... BTW, to be fair to > OpenLook, I recently saw Sun give a demonstration of the NEW OpenLook GUI > which incorporates a really neat 3D look that surpasses even Motif. This is the most important point in your posting. The 3-D OpenLook is the best looking window-thing I've ever seen. To hear Motif fans saying that 3D OpenLook "surpasses even Motif" must be pleasing to Sun's ears. It's now my default environment, since (despite your comments about Sun and vaporware, a rep they are working very hard to overcome), I have 3-D OpenLook on my workstation NOW since the souce for it is freely available to one and all, courtesy of Sun. Just get the OpenLook Window Manager (X11R4/contrib/w*/olwm) and the patches for it (expo.lcs.mit.edu, XView patches 1 and 2). Compile olgx (a library used by olwm) and olwm itself, terminate your old window manager, and run olwm -3 -display yourworkstation:0 and you've got the best looking window-thing around. Of course like most 3D window-things it requires a grayscale or color monitor. I've only seen it working on a Sun-3/60 with a CG4. Your mileage may vary. Ian Darwin ian@sq.com -- #exclude