Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!rex!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!hoptoad!gnu From: gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) Newsgroups: comp.windows.news Subject: Re: how are other sites using XNeWS? Message-ID: <10316@hoptoad.uucp> Date: 19 Feb 90 10:48:35 GMT References: Organization: Grasshopper Group in San Francisco Lines: 20 Anyone who would read comp.windows.news [or get news-makers] is a friend, and friends of NeWS may as well know the truth. Grasshopper Group is not using xnews for much of anything. In fact we see NeWS as a lose at this point. Technically the idea was great. Politically and organizationally Sun dropped the ball so many times that even if they fixed all the problems tomorrow, nobody would (or should) believe them. Both inside and outside Sun, the NeWS team is disintegrating. David LaVallee is working at NeXT (where they seem to care about PostScript based windowing). Robin Schaufler is leaving Friday for a job at SGI. Don Hopkins is finally going to graduate and wants to do some real work that will get used -- that is, not using Sun's bastard stepchild. Josh Siegel is learning about X and going back to school. Grasshopper has released our office space and Hugh Daniel, Keith Henson and I are working on other things. We are thinking of holding a wake for NeWS in our ex-offices a few days before we have to be out. X might be rasterop on wheels, but at least it has wheels. -- John Gilmore {sun,pacbell,uunet,pyramid}!hoptoad!gnu gnu@toad.com Just say *yes* to drugs. If someone offers you a drug war, just say no.