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From: toml@ninja.Solbourne.COM (Tom LaStrange)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: WM for Motif or is R4 twm ICCCM compliant
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Date: 14 Feb 90 23:27:07 GMT
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> 1) The manual specifies that  Dialogs should always be iconified
>    together with the toplevel window for the application. This does
>    not work when using R4 twm but (of course) when I use the Motif
>    windowmanager mwm.
> 
> 
> Why is this so? I can think of two reasons:
> 
> - Motif is designed to always require mwm. And mwm does more than what
>   is required by the ICCCM standard.

There is nothing in the ICCCM (at least that I could find) that says
that a transient should be removed from the display when the
transient_for window is iconified.  Motif and mwm decided that this was
reasonable behavior, and I tend to agree with them even though it is
not spelled out in the ICCCM.  And it's not just transient stuff either,
both Motif and Open Look specify a private protocol that their clients and
their window managers understand.

Are the two private protocols compatible?

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I guess what you really need is a window manager that deals gracefully
with both Motif and Open Look clients and their private protocolisms.
Hmmmmm,  don't I have one of those laying around someplace ...


Good Luck,
Tom LaStrange

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