Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!ucsd!ucbvax!hplabs!hpda!cadence!horen From: horen@cadence.com (Jonathan Horen) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: Running FRAME X11.R3 under X11.R4 Message-ID: <1990Feb13.162054.3746@cadence.com> Date: 13 Feb 90 16:20:54 GMT References: <1990Feb11.184104.5253@aurora.com> <4870@amelia.nas.nasa.gov> Organization: Cadence Design Systems (TechPubs Group) [408] 954-7781 Lines: 35 In article <4870@amelia.nas.nasa.gov> samlb@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Sam Bassett RCD) writes: > > FrameMaker 1.3 is available in a package that runs under X11R3 >(and, from the reports, under R4, too). As of the time that 2.0 came >out, Frame was telling us that it only ran on Sun iron, and that they >would be coming out with an X version in the spring. But it is not such a "well-behaved" client. For example, we are running it with the X11.R3/XNeWS server and Motif window manager, and almost *any* kind of customization of menu/client resources causes FrameMaker1.3X's dialog boxes, file scroller/print/etc. menus to appear in reverse video. Moreover, the black bar that highlights choices is not transparent, i.e., it totally covers up choices. When I called their Tech Support people (heck, they're *only* 2 miles from here) and asked for a list of FrameMaker1.3X's configurable resources, they said "Huh?". Sure, you can also run FrameMaker1.3X under straight X11.R3, but then it's slow as molasses in January, taking seconds to scroll the text down a page, or move from one page to another. In either case, I challenge someone to get right/left quotes out of FrameMaker1.3X! Go ahead, try pressing Meta-<`> (left quote) or Meta-<'> (right quote) and see what ya get! FrameMaker1.3X is a kludge, an embarrassment. I'm just glad that it's this company's money, and not mine. +------------------------+--------------------------------------------------+ | _J_o_n_a_t_h_a_n_ _B_._ _H_o_r_e_n_ _ _ _ _ | | . | Lilmod Al Manat Laasot | | _C_a_d_e_n_c_e_ _D_e_s_i_g_n_ _S_y_s_t_e_m_s | |__ (/\ \ / |__ Lilmod Al Manat Lelamed | | | _/ / _\ _\/ _/ Lilmod Al Manat Lichtov | | _h_o_r_e_n_@_c_a_d_e_n_c_e_._c_o_m | -: - | +------------------------+--------------------------------------------------+