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From: Matthew_Eric_Seitz@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: CfD: Interest Groups Surveys
Message-ID: <26949@cup.portal.com>
Date: 15 Feb 90 10:36:00 GMT
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As an example of my system, lets try this test case:

As a reminder my system of balloting was of the form

[preferential name list] ["Y" names which would cause you to vote yes on group
creation] ["N" names which would cause you to vote no on group creation]

>I don't understand this at all.  Let us suppose that there is a call
>for discussion for an astrology group.  The proposer of the group,
>being a firm believer in astrology, decides that the group should be
>called sci.astrology.  During the discussion, several people point out
>that they think this group should be called rec.astrology, since
>astrology is mostly a recreational thing (ITHO), while others say
>that it should be named talk.astrology, since there will be endless
>flame wars about the validity of astrology.  After a long discussion
>in news.groups, the call for votes goes out with the three names:
>
>1. sci.astrology
>2. rec.astrology
>3. talk.astrology

>Now suppose that voter 1 doesn't care whether an astrology group is
>created or not, but wants to vote against the name sci.astrology. What
>would this vote look like?

There are two possible ways to interpret this statement

1)  Voter 1 wants a name other than sci.astrology to be chosen, but once
a name is chosen, doesn't care whether the group is created or not.

Vote: 23

This votes for names 2 and 3, but abstains from any other names and from 
voting on group creation.  I realize this is not the same as voting against
name 1, but pariliamentary procedure does not recognize a method of single
vote multiple choice balloting where individual selections are rejected.

2)  Voter 1 doesn't care which name is finally selected, so long as an
astrology group with the name sci.astrology is not created

Vote:  N1

This vote completely abstatins from the name selection vote, abstains from
voting on group creation if name 2 or 3 is selected, but opposes creation
if sci.astrology is selected as the name.

>Suppose voter 2 doesn't care what the name of the group is, this
>person just want SOME astrology group created.  What would this vote
>look like?

 Y123

This abstains from the name selection vote, but votes yes on group creation
for any selected name.

>Suppose voter 3 doesn't think that astrology has any place on the net
>and opposes any group creation with astrology as a discussion topic.
>How would this person vote?

 N123

Again, abstain from name selection, but oppose creation of the group, no
matter what the name.

>Voter 4 really likes the idea of an astrology group, but hates the
>sci.astrology name enough that he/she would prefer to not have a group
>rather than name it sci.any.

 Y23 N1

This votes yes on group creation with names 2 or 3, but no on group creation
with name 1.  If voter 4 had a preference on name 3 over name 2, he could also
include a preference list befor the creation vote: 32 Y23 N1

>I think I can figure out what to do if I want the group created, and
>have some preference among the names, but how do I vote against a
>particular name without influencing the vote for the other names as
>well?
Vote no for group creation on the name you dislike, vote yes on group creation
for the name you do like, and don't include a name preference list.  See voter
4 above.


> And how do I put equal emphasis on ANY name if I don't want to
>rank them?

Simply list a yes vote for all the proposed names, but don't include a
name preference list:  Y123

				Matt Seitz
				Matthew_Eric_Seitz@cup.portal.com


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