Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!iuvax!maytag!looking!brad From: brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: CfD: Interest Group Surveys (was: STV new group proposal in 25 lines) Keywords: single transferrable votes STV newsgroup creation interest group Message-ID: <97608@looking.on.ca> Date: 17 Feb 90 04:21:23 GMT References: <1990Feb7.224449.8453@diku.dk> <13779@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> <1AP1WZAxds13@ficc.uu.net> <6310@ncar.ucar.edu> <01@DEL.> <02@DEL.> <6331@ncar.ucar.edu> Organization: Looking Glass Software Ltd. Lines: 31 Class: discussion In article <6331@ncar.ucar.edu> woods@snowmass.scd.ucar.edu (Greg Woods) writes: > > I think it would be a LOT worse if the name could change after some people >have already voted. > > And what would we gain if we did this? A few days off the creation time? >I don't think those few days are worth the potential extra mess. What we gain is actually the removal of the "discussion phase" concept from the process, and thus, by and large, a lot of the "discussions." Most of these discussions, I would venture, are only read by a small minority of people. The rest of us use the 'k' key with great regularity on them, if comments I have heard are any indication. It would eliminate the "I think group x wuold be a good idea" postings we always get when a 'call for discussion' is made. We might well gain a lot this way. I see no problem in the name changing after people vote, but then as I have written many times, I think voting is the dumbest way you could devise for picking names, and I have yet to figure out why so many people think it's worth voting on. (Yes, I know, pseudo-democratic ideals are drummed into you in school. That's no excuse.) As if naming groups is a popularity contest of some sort. But whenever I or somebody else suggests something new, there are always those who leap to the defense of the status quo. Usenet, the network of arch-conservative anarchists. What a contradiction. -- Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Waterloo, Ontario 519/884-7473