Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!umn-d-ub!cs.umn.edu!hougen From: hougen@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (Dean Hougen) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: Lets do something constructive re: *.aquaria groups Summary: reply to a nay-sayer Message-ID: <1990Feb20.080137.16494@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu> Date: 20 Feb 90 08:01:37 GMT References: <##701$@rpi.edu> <10804@saturn.ADS.COM> <1990Feb12.091942.9791@agate.berkeley.edu> <1990Feb13.044748.15122@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu> <1990Feb20.003710.26194@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu> <99000@looking.on.ca> Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis - CSCI Dept. Lines: 36 In article <99000@looking.on.ca>, brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) writes: >Sorry, no. Please do not discuss the fish groups in news.groups. That >topic has had its day here. It doesn't get another chance. That is a rather negative attitude you've got there Brad. A great many goals take more than one try to reach. That doesn't mean that they are not worth reaching. > If you are so upset about the result then you should have worked to >convince the people invovled that they were doing harm to their own cause. "The people involved" include everyone who debated the issue, everyone who voted, and everyone who knew of the debate and/or the vote and sat on the sidelines. And yes, they did all wind up hurting themselves. I did try to possitively contribute at the time. We failed to reach an acceptable solution, and I failed along with everyone else. Is it so wrong for me to try again? > Discussing the matter here will not do any more good, because I think I >speak for all when I say we will not tolerate another fish vote and >discussion cycle in this group. I think you speak only for yourself. I know you don't speak for all! >The result was not good, but there is no mechanism in existing USENET >to fix it. You have to live with it. We're people here, not simple machines. We can resolve this problem if we try. BTW, until we do, you have to live with it too. So, anyone out there like the idea of possitive changes? Dean Hougen -- "The news groups are not concerned, With what there is to be learned." - the Clash