Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uunet!aplcen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!psuvax1!psuvm!auvm!CUNYVMS1!DLV From: DLV@CUNYVMS1.BITNET (Dimitri Vulis) Newsgroups: bit.listserv.disarm-l Subject: Re: Who persecuted the Jews?????? Message-ID: Date: 19 Feb 90 22:34:00 GMT Sender: Disarmament Discussion List Reply-To: Disarmament Discussion List Lines: 40 Approved: NETNEWS@AUVM.BITNET Gateway Original_To: JNET%"disarm-l@albnyvm1" Thanks you K. W. Jeffreys for the interesting note. I will write a long detailed response later; in the meantime I'l like to mention a few related atrocities (longer letter to follow) * The treatment of german and japanse pows in Russia (they had even lower survival rate than russian pows in germany!) * the continous massacre of the chinese by the japanese in the 30's and 40's * the indiscriminate bombing of german cities (useless from military viewpoint) * the massacres by stalin of his own population before, during and after wwii * the forced repatriation after wwii of hundreds of thousands of soviets who fled with the nazis * the refusal by the allies to accept jewish refugees (more on this later in great detail) * the brutalities by soviet troops against german civilians in east prussia and elsewhere * the exile of millions of germans, hungarians, etc from the lands where their ancestors had lived for centuries after wwii * the excile (accompanied by the kiiling of about 60%) of crimean tartars, greeks, germans, kalmyks and countless other nationalities accused by stalin of collaborating with the germans. (I'm just listing things that come randomly to my mind, but for some reason all but #2 were committed by the 'good guys'). By the way, you mention Hitler's invasion of Poland. Do you happen to remember who invaded Poland from the other side? :) The point that I'm trying to make is that painting either side in this conflict as being the 'good guys' in any way, shape or form is in my humble opinion undeserved. Dimitri Vulis