Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!zds-ux!gerry From: gerry@zds-ux.UUCP (Gerry Gleason) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Neal Nelson Benchmarks Summary: Do they measure anything? Message-ID: <196@zds-ux.UUCP> Date: 22 Feb 90 17:19:19 GMT Reply-To: gerry@zds-ux.UUCP (Gerry Gleason) Organization: Zenith Data Systems Lines: 29 I have just been going through a bunch of marketing hype for Neal Nelson. He claims that his "Business Benchmark" measures how well machines perform on "tasks like word processing, spread sheets, database management, accounting, programming and CAD," but I have never seen anything that backs this up with analysis or real data. Also in the package are quite a few reprints that prominently feature these benchmarks, including several saying RISC is not much of a win based on his benchmarks. (Federal Computer Week, "Tests Challenge Old RISC, CISC Notions; EE Times, "CISC beats RISC in test"; Computerworld, "Unearthing RISC worms") The EE Times article has the results for his Test 5 (Short integer math) showing the Sun-3 to be ~10% faster than a Sun-4, which leads me to believe that the benchmark is bogus. I thought EE Times was a pretty good publication, but the article does not even ask the question of what the benchmark is really measuring. I was hoping that someone has already done some analysis of these benchmarks, and can confirm my suspicion that these test not only are bogus, but don't even measure what they claim to. Unfortunately, at least some important fraction of the market uses these benchmarks to evaluate products, so many of us must apply them to our products even though we suspect them of being misleading. If they really are bogus, what can be done to publicly discredit them, so further harm is not done? Gerry Gleason Gerry Gleason