Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!winchester!mash From: mash@mips.COM (John Mashey) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: IBM RISC Message-ID: <36440@mips.mips.COM> Date: 25 Feb 90 03:33:44 GMT References: <9376@portia.Stanford.EDU> <192@zds-ux.UUCP> <1990Feb22.175120.12835@utzoo.uucp> Sender: news@mips.COM Reply-To: mash@mips.COM (John Mashey) Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. Lines: 19 In article <1990Feb22.175120.12835@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes: >Um, I haven't followed the details of the new IBM stuff, but my impression >is that most of the "super-scalar" parallelism being touted is just >parallelism between integer and floating-point operations, which both >MIPS and SPARC have had from the beginning... Actually, this is not right. Even with multiple function units, and even with whatever degree of parallelism there is, none of the {MIPS, SPARC, 88K, HP PA} set issues more than one instruction/cycle. The IBM certainly can issue more, as does the Intel i960, and they are superscalars. The HP Apollo DN10000 and Intel i860 are more properly called short-VLIWs (in my opinion), since they are restricted to instruction pairs of 1-integer+1 FP, in a definite order. -- -john mashey DISCLAIMER: UUCP: {ames,decwrl,prls,pyramid}!mips!mash OR mash@mips.com DDD: 408-991-0253 or 408-720-1700, x253 USPS: MIPS Computer Systems, 930 E. Arques, Sunnyvale, CA 94086