Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!unicorn!blake!mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU From: mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: IBM RISC system 6000 Message-ID: <5926@blake.acs.washington.edu> Date: 26 Feb 90 00:03:43 GMT Sender: news@blake.acs.washington.edu Organization: Mendou Zaibatsu, Tomobiki-Cho, Butsumetsu-Shi Lines: 31 I don't want to say too much, since I'm not sure what is public or what is not (yet) public. However, to paraphrase Mark Twain, the reports of the death of SPARC and NeXT due to the IBM RISC system 6000 are greatly exaggerated. A SPARC-killer it is not. A NeXT-killer it is not. On the positive side, the IBM people we spoke to took extensive notes on what we said. They seemed to be aggressively interested in offering a product that *would* be a SPARC-killer, so there is hope. It just isn't there yet. One thing that was mentioned to them is that a 6000 with NeXTStep (that is, the application kit) without the NeXT bundled applications is not a replacement for a NeXT. That is, in order to be compared with a NeXT, a NeXTStep 6000 must have all the applications (modulo perhaps a real terminal emulator instead of Shell and Terminal). Even as an old PDP-10 fanatic (the original anti-IBM rebels), I don't have bad feelings about IBM. I would like to see the 6000 make it as a viable platform. I don't think they are there yet. _____ ____ ---+--- /-\ Mark Crispin Atheist & Proud _|_|_ _|_ || ___|__ / / 6158 Lariat Loop NE R90/6 pilot |_|_|_| /|\-++- |=====| / / Bainbridge Island, WA "Gaijin! Gaijin!" --|-- | |||| |_____| / \ USA 98110-2098 "Gaijin ha doko ka?" /|\ | |/\| _______ / \ +1 (206) 842-2385 "Niichan ha gaijin." / | \ | |__| / \ / \ mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU "Chigau. Gaijin ja nai. kisha no kisha ga kisha de kisha-shita Omae ha gaijin darou." sumomo mo momo, momo mo momo, momo ni mo iroiro aru "Iie, boku ha nihonjin." uraniwa ni wa niwa, niwa ni wa niwa niwatori ga iru "Souka. Yappari gaijin!"