Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!ames!ames.arc.nasa.gov!lamaster From: lamaster@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Hugh LaMaster) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: IBM RISC Message-ID: <43746@ames.arc.nasa.gov> Date: 26 Feb 90 19:24:45 GMT References: <8064@pt.cs.cmu.edu> <9327@portia.Stanford.EDU> <273@dg.dg.com> Sender: usenet@ames.arc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA - Ames Research Center Lines: 65 In article <273@dg.dg.com> uunet!dg!mpogue (Mike Pogue) writes: >In article <9327@portia.Stanford.EDU> underdog@portia.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes: >>Are we going to see a replay of the Apple II vs. IBM pc situation in >>the early 80s? >Certainly the IBM announcement is interesting and challenging from a number of >perspectives. >1) The UNIX workstation market is much more OPEN (sorry to use the buzzword) > than the PC market of the early 80's. > 2) Software that is ported to the IBM machine can easily be ported to > other machines (MIPS, SPARC, 88K). : >Pretty soon, IBM customers will have a CHOICE of vendor HW platforms for running >their software. (Oh my God!) I think the IBM announcement will turn out to be the best possible outcome for current Unix/Workstation vendors. The reason is this: Fortune 500 companies will see this as "legitimizing" Unix, the same way that the IBM PC "legitimized" the PC. Never mind the stupidity or illogicality of this attitude - that is how they think about IBM and computers. Today. Which means that they will permit their staffs to buy Unix machines *from IBM*. But probably not the competition. Today. Software vendors are, and will, scramble to convert their packages to the IBM systems. And, Sun and DEC, since those are now blue chip companies as well. Technicians will often succeed on at least supporting other standard ABI systems like m88k and MIPS, which gets more players in the game. By then, most of the non-portable garbage is out of the code, and the smaller companies can assist porting and supporting as needed. Now, notice that a software package which was formerly IBM only now runs on other systems. This announcement opens up the potential for a flood of commercial software on Unix workstations. At the same time, the captive I/O peripheral approach IBM is using will limit IBM's penetration of the hardware market in existing Unix shops, the same as it did for DEC initially. So, the net effect will be to add to the size of the Unix market while limiting penetration into the existing marketplace. And, at the same time, provide an impetus for porting a lot of commercial software to the Unix marketplace. ******************* What to watch out for: Captive Software. I have already seen a reactionary trend forming on the part of marketeers - big vendors are trying to recapture software by signing agreements which will delay or prevent the introduction of particular packages on rival systems. Sometimes the price of getting "preferred status" is that a package *not* be introduced on other systems for some specified time, if ever. I wonder about the legality of this activity, but, in any case, the consumer's protection against this will be *to buy software that is available on the widest variety of platforms even if only one is needed today*. That is the protection that the investment you make in software will not be chaining you to a particular hardware vendor in the future. Hugh LaMaster, m/s 233-9, UUCP ames!lamaster NASA Ames Research Center ARPA lamaster@ames.arc.nasa.gov Moffett Field, CA 94035 Phone: (415)604-6117