Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ncar!ico!rcd From: rcd@ico.isc.com (Dick Dunn) Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript Subject: Re: PostScript -- Stop Bashing Adobe Summary: substance??? Message-ID: <1990Feb27.045623.20591@ico.isc.com> Date: 27 Feb 90 04:56:23 GMT References: <132223@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> <1032@abvax.UUCP> Organization: Interactive Systems Corporation, Boulder, CO Lines: 30 jaz@abvax.UUCP (Jack A. Zucker) writes about the request to stop the flame wars: > Your article reeks of America... Love it or leave it. Look, this isn't alt.flame. Some of us read this group to exchange ideas about PostScript, not to watch all the wannabes preen their egos and whine about what is, in the final analysis, the fact that Adobe created PostScript and they didn't. If there's any of the "Love it or leave it" philosophy here, it's in the anti-Adobe attitude that seems to say that Adobe is evil because they're successful, and that anyone who isn't flaming Adobe must be a simpering sycophant. Anyone who dares to be *happy* about PostScript, or who finds it *incredibly useful*, is somehow on the defensive lately. No, the attitude of the folks who side with Adobe and who want to talk about using PostScript instead of flaming it is not "Love it or leave it." If you want to state it in belligerent form, it's "Put up or shut up!" I'm tired of having the newsgroup overrun by the whining and the flaming. Sensible criticism would be useful, but the sort of criticism we've seen in the newsgroup in the past few months shows *no* understanding of language design, engineering tradeoffs, logical structure, consistency, or human engineering (to name a few) - all concepts which Adobe *did* consider. Nor have I seen anyone show even a plausible fragment of a replacement or competitor for PostScript. It's *just* noise, and it's rude to keep dumping nontechnical crap into a (formerly) technical newsgroup. -- Dick Dunn rcd@ico.isc.com uucp: {ncar,nbires}!ico!rcd (303)449-2870 ...Don't lend your hand to raise no flag atop no ship of fools.