Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!jb10320 From: jb10320@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jawaid Bazyar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Apple // Programmer's Consortium Summary: Who wants to make one? Keywords: Programmers, Guild, Group, etc. Message-ID: <1990Feb26.031436.17682@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 26 Feb 90 03:14:36 GMT References: <1990Feb26.030214.15564@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Sender: news@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (News) Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 34 The Apple // has always been primarily a hacker's machine, as opposed to a user's machine (Read My Lips: No New Macs <- could be a reality in a year or two). This came about because of the Apple's open architecture and superb end-user support. Many magazines of the likes of Call A.P.P.L.E. and Hardcore Computist (and one I can't remember the title of, every Apple buyer got a free subscription if they wanted) helped the average Joe become familiar with the innards and outs of his machine. Anyone who had the desire could easily and quickly write up programs for his computer, because of the built-in language (Applesloth, of course). With the demise of Call APPLE, the other aforementioned mag whose name has slipped my mind, and many others, the Apple // community has been left in a void. Something needs to fill that void, and fast, before we forget what it means to own an Apple //. What I suggest is the formation of a non-profit orginazation, devoted to the distribution of Apple //-related materials. There would be a monthly newsletter (more like a magazine, really) that would have info galore (how-to's, tech help, programming examples, etc). A public domain collection would be maintained, and handled in much the same way as the Amiga's Fred Fish collection (the Fish disks are an invaluable programmer's resource- the Apple // should have these too). Anyone have any more ideas as to what such an orginazation could do? And, more importantly, is anyone up to the task of helping me make such a group a reality? The whole thing could be managed thru the Net, the magazine published at any handy university Mac/NeXT lab. Help make the Apple // dream a reality again. -- Jawaid Bazyar | This message was posted to thousands of machines Junior/Computer Engineering | throughout the entire civilized world. It cost jb10320@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu | the net hundreds, maybe thousands of dollars.