Xref: utzoo comp.sys.ibm.pc:45336 comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer:158 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!hellgate.utah.edu!helios.ee.lbl.gov!ucsd!ucsdhub!hp-sdd!apollo!nelson_p From: nelson_p@apollo.HP.COM (Peter Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer Subject: RE programs crashing in Desqview Message-ID: <48e5784c.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> Date: 27 Feb 90 16:01:00 GMT Sender: root@apollo.HP.COM Distribution: usa Organization: Hewlett-Packard Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA Lines: 45 I recently posted a problem about some simple C programs crashing in Desqview in graphics mode. I called Quarterdeck. [ Warning: due to recent new releases Quarterdeck's tech support staff is swamped. I called Desqview during their recommended "light" period and had to wait on hold for 25 minutes, at Massachusetts to California long distance phone rates.] They suggested switching the ATi VGAwonder card to 8 bits or, as a diagnostic measure, removing QEMM. I chose the latter and the problem seemed to go away. Of course so did most of my memory. Any idea what this says about the problem? BTW, before deciding to buy Desqview I had a couple of conversations with their tech support staff to try to assess the risks in using such a product. One area I focused on was the graphics environment They said that they can virtualize it, I expressed doubt. One major area of doubt was color LUT ("palette") collisions. I said I didn't see any way they could keep one application's changing of the color look-up-table from affecting colors in other windows. They said, in effect, "no problem". Probably they meant, "no problem for us". I certainly have had "no problem" in clobbering the colors in one window by changing the LUTs from a program in another window. A glance at the manual shows that this is to be expected. So Quarterdeck's another company whose tech support needs to have a better understanding of their product. They DO attempt to read-save-and-restore the LUTS for switching windows but this doesn't work reliably. I've had cases where the colors do not return to their previous state when the other program ends. BTW, I had another problem running Desqview yesterday. I was formatting a pile of 3.5" disks in a Desqview window (one of two that were open) and I got an error from Desqview's protection mechanism indicating that the DOS "format" had committed a protection violation! I quit out of that and started over and formatted another 10 disks without incident. I had the protection set to [3] so it's possible that it was finding a real DOS error that was simply not noticed before. How do I tell? ---Peter