Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!bridge2!ngg From: ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM (Norman Goodger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: Where can I buy Telebit (or other modems) cheap? Message-ID: <1361@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM> Date: 23 Feb 90 00:32:07 GMT References: <1358@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM> <1003@fiver.UUCP> Organization: 3Com Corp., Mt. View, CA Lines: 84 In article <1003@fiver.UUCP> palowoda@fiver.UUCP (Bob Palowoda) writes: >From article <1358@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM>, by ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM (Norman Goodger): >> In article <8377@potomac.ads.com> jtn@potomac.ads.com (John T. Nelson) writes: > >> 1. There is no such thing as a cheap Telebit. > So how much $$ are Dual Standard HST's. Depends on whether you want retail or sysop pricing. I don't have the price list available as I write this reply, so if there is some interest in HST pricing, I'll post it. >> 2. The USR Courier HST 14.4 modem is faster than a Telebit. > Only to another HST 14.4. But this is the same with Telebits > in PEP mode. How much faster is it than the Telebit and why? The reason that the newer HST's are faster than Telebit's as I understand it us due to the higher DTE to DCE rate of 38.4K instead of 19.2K. You are partially correct that the higher speeds available are between two 14.4K modems. The highest speeds I've seen reported is over 1700cps and I've achieved 1600cps on my Mac. The highest I recall for Telebit is about 1500cps, however if someone wishes to submit there results.... >> 3. Depending on your specific needs, in the BBS world there are >> far more HST's out there than Telebits. > > So you think there is more than the "BBS" world. Very good > at least your learning. Snide comments are not your forte.... >> 4. For the somewhere near the same $$ you can buy a USR HST dual Standard >> and get HST and V.32 compatability and still be faster than Telebit. > > Ok, I guy just posted you can get TB2500 for 940.00 Which gives you > V.32. How much is the HST Dual Standard? > > What is the uucp throughput? As I indicated above, I don't have HST pricing Handy, however if there is interest, I'll post it. I personally don't have answers for uucp thruput. >> 5. The Telebit modems are notoriously hard to setup, they have more >> registers than I care to think about.. > > Than don't think, you may hurt yourself.... > Just because it has more registers in the modem dosn't make it > more difficult to setup. I only had to set 5 registers on my > TB to set it up. Real hard huh? While you have had to only adjust a few registers for the communications you happen to do, I know of others that have had a significantly harder time than you did getting their modems to connect with anything including other Telebits. Glad yours was easy. Your snide comments are still beneath you however. >> Bottom line...if you want speed, get an HST... > > As if it where the only bottom line.... > I belevie the original poster was shopping around for "cheap" Telebit > modems. All you did was get on here and say buy a HST Dual standard > because it's faster and you can get it for the same price. Yet you > didn't give any details. If you going to play the pseudo advertisement > game at least come up with some data and or reasons why. You sound like > a used car salesperson with your statements above. Just because "Norm" > says dosn't mean people will. A good comparison or a well written > technicial description of the product has a chance of getting saved > to a file.:-) I think I have come back with a reasonable reply, that does not mean to say that there is not room for more discussion. However While the original poster may have been looking for a Telebit, he if I remember correct he did not specify for what, so perhaps in his situation the HST might be better for him if there were a dicussion of the pros & cons of the modem. My Initial posting listed some reasons why I think the HST is a better buy. Telebit owners that may not have experience with HST's recently or at all are bound to disagree or concur depending on the knowledge of both modems. I had a Telebit for several weeks, had problems connecting to several other Telebit modems that I tried to call, had to configure a number of registers to initiate some connections and did not exactly get the speed I was expecting from it. My 14.4K HST was faster... >---Bob -- Norm Goodger SysOp - MacInfo BBS @415-795-8862 3Com Corp. Co-SysOp FreeSoft RT - GEnie. Enterprise Systems Division (I disclaim anything and everything) UUCP: {3comvax,auspex,sun}!bridge2!ngg Internet: ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM