Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!yale!bunker!hcap!hnews!300!3!Pat.Goltz From: Pat.Goltz@f3.n300.z1.fidonet.org (Pat Goltz) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: deaf folks speak Message-ID: <10327@bunker.UUCP> Date: 22 Feb 90 05:09:52 GMT Sender: news@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: Pat.Goltz@f3.n300.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:300/3 - UA Today, Tucson AZ Lines: 48 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 6896 Hi. We were discussing teaching deaf kids to speak awhile back. You said that lots of kids can't talk well no matter how hard they try. I admit this is a problem. One guy I know really got turned off by people forcing him to try to learn to speak when he was little. Unfortunately, he wants to go into aerospace engineering, but that industry is heavily built on the idea of doing things by committee, and communication is essential. They will probably be real closed to anybody who can't talk to them, and not be willing to pay for an interpreter. Unless he's unusually persistent, he will get locked out. Even with an interpreter, it will be tough sledding. I think an honest effort should be made to teach deaf kids to speak. Admittedly, it will take awhile before people really know for sure whether a given kid is going to be able to do it, and I think they should level with the kid and tell him that they don't really know whether it will do any good or not, but that we have to try. At the same time, educational efforts aimed at other folks to be willing to accept deaf people who can't speak, and to be able to communicate in sign somewhat should be undertaken. Someone here recently asked why TV programs should have an interpreter instead of captions. I can think of two reasons. One is that sign is more natural for many deaf folks, and the interpreters are likely to be more accurate than the captions. But the other is so that hearies can learn sign! I would gladly watch the interpreter intently during a TV program to learn all the sign I could. Years ago when I attended a church that had an interpreter, I ALWAYS sat among the deaf people so I could learn sign. i learned a lot that way. Kids could learn sign this way, and people in general could come to accept deaf folks better that way if interpreting were part of their world. I think both sides have to make much more of an effort than they are doing now. For deaf folks, that means trying to learn to speak as long as it isn't shoved down their throats. For the hearing, it means trying to learn sign. We're talking about building bridges here, and part of the responsibility lies with the person with the difficulty, because a person like me can only learn so much, and there are an awful lot of different conditions to learn about! Deaf folks can't hear themselves, speak, but they can feel their vocal cords vibrate, and they can feel the way their mouths shape themselves. You and I agree on one thing: deaf kids should never be forced. But a lot of effort should be put into giving them incentive. Teachers need to rethink their attitudes, because there are some really bad ones floating around. I know that incentive is the ONLY way, because you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink! Pat -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!300!3!Pat.Goltz Internet: Pat.Goltz@f3.n300.z1.fidonet.org