Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!snorkelwacker!spdcc!merk!xylogics!world!bzs From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: A USENet domain (was Re: Domain Charters) Message-ID: <1990Feb27.232423.16107@world.std.com> Date: 27 Feb 90 23:24:23 GMT References: <_.W1K12xds8@ficc.uu.net> <1990Feb23.202301.3363@everexn.uucp> <38951@apple.Apple.COM> <11012@saturn.ADS.COM> <38983@apple.Apple.COM> <103276@looking.on.ca> <15208@bfmny0.UU.NET> Followup-To: news.groups Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die Lines: 51 In-Reply-To: tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET's message of 27 Feb 90 15:48:10 GMT From: tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET (Tom Neff) >In article <103276@looking.on.ca> brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) writes: >>I am sorry folks, deciding what names to give to newsgroups just isn't >>what USENET's about. Oddly, reading news.* seems to give me the impression >>that everybody who posts here thinks it is. > >Sigh. > >If you want to read about toy boats, read rec.toy.boats. If you want to >read about cooking or VMS or astronomy or APL or tai chi, go read the >appropriate group. But if you want to read about news administration >issues, read THIS group. And newsgroup naming is an important >administration issue. No it's not, newsgroup naming doesn't seem terribly important to anyone I see posting about it. It just seems like an idle game that merits little thought other than doing something simplistic and obvious, mostly resembling the same thought given to choosing variable names in a program or file names. The ideas are very shallow, to be blunt. The library systems of the world have spent several hundred years developing topical naming systems. Even if duplicating that work isn't quite right it might be nice to see if anyone might consider existing efforts like this before making their suggestions. But y'all would have to get up, walk over to a library, maybe ask the librarian about subjects like this (not necessarily limited to library science, but it might be a place to start) and go read about it and develop some understanding of such systems. I know, it's easier to just invent systems on the fly, at a reasonable typing rate. Or, barring that, someone might give it a little deeper thought than "maybe we should create a usenet.* top level!" Anyhow, I'm not convinced in the slightest that it's important to anyone here, except as a little game to play with other people on this group for a few minutes at a time. Oh, they may get emotional about the issue, but that's hardly a substitute for sincere thought. The next proposal taken seriously for a USENET renaming should be of publication quality. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | {xylogics,uunet}!world!bzs | bzs@world.std.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD