Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!apple!ames!pacbell!att!cbnewsh!seth From: seth@cbnewsh.ATT.COM (peter.r.clark..jr) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: INDOOR: Still thinking about buying a bird Keywords: More help requested... Message-ID: <8395@cbnewsh.ATT.COM> Date: 21 Feb 90 21:15:50 GMT Distribution: na Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 54 A few weeks ago I posted a request in rec.pets for some basic info about buying, and caring for, an African Grey. Well, I only got two responses, but they were very informative and only reinforced my desire to purchase one. But now I have some more questions that may affect my final descision, so I'd appreciate any further assistance... Ok, here goes: First, my situation. My wife and I currently have two small dogs and two cats. I expect the cat population to grow by one or two, but not the dog. If memory serves me, one person said that the bird would be fine with the dogs, but didn't know about the cats, and the other said that the bird would get along fine with the cats but wasn't sure about the dogs. I guess I think I'm going to be OK on that front. As for space, I'm going to be moving into a 4 BR house with a large open living room. I therefore also don't think I'm going to have any crowding problems (we're all currently living in a 2 BR apt and everybody gets along fine...). I've decided to buy from a breeder rather than a pet shop, but haven't found one yet. I haven't exactly been looking real hard yet either (if you know anybody in the NJ/Eastern Pa. area...). Ok, finally the questions: Any comments on anything I've said so far? (Ignorance time) What *exactly* does it mean when a birds wings are clipped? The best response I could get from a local pet store was "They do that so the bird can't fly". What a genius. I could've figured that out. Anyway, is it permanent? Desirable? If not permanent, should I do it at regular intervals? (Please, no flames if you feel there's something inhumane about this. I'm just asking for info. That doesn't mean I've made any descisions) Can these birds be trained to be taken outside without flying away? Is it difficult? (I'm assuming that it is) I was planning on getting a large cage with a perch on top, and probably putting a perch or two on the first floor of the house. I've also thought about hanging a perch from the ceiling. Any comments on this? Finally, are there any particularly good books I should pick up in my travels? Again, thanks in advance for any help you can give me... Pete Clark Jr. att!hos1cad!seth att!cbnewsh!seth