Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!cbnews!military From: gwh%typhoon.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (George William Herbert) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Turbo{jet,fan}s Summary: Get it right :-) [COrrection to turbojet defn. and more...] Message-ID: <14307@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 25 Feb 90 06:12:24 GMT References: <24932@ut-emx.UUCP> Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: ucb Lines: 67 Approved: military@att.att.com From: gwh%typhoon.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (George William Herbert) In article <24932@ut-emx.UUCP> rdd@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Robert Dorsett) writes: > >> What are the important differences between turbojet and turbofan >> airplane engines? >> >>My limited understanding is that a turbofan is a turbojet with a >>bypass added. So some of the air goes around the ignition area and >>then rejoins the exhaust flow. Is there any other basic difference? > >All jet engines in service work more or less as follows: incoming air is >compressed via a set of "low-pressure" compressor blades. Airflow leaving >the low-pressure compressor ultimately constitutes the effective thrust of >the engine. The air leaving the low-pressure compressor then either goes >straight into the high-pressure compressor (after which it is used to >maintain the turbine) or "bypassed" around the high-pressure compressor >and turbine. Turbine exhaust does *not* comprise the thrust of the engine; >the engine thrust comes from the "bypassed" air (after-burning is a special >case). In a turbojet, this is not the case at all. In most turbofans, yes most of the thrust is from the low pressure compressor, but not all by a longshot. You need to do some more reading on jet engines... >Early engines ("turbojets") had relative low bypass ratios (1:1, 2:1). >These would also generally recombine exhaust and bypass air into a common >exhaust port. "Turbofans" have much higher bypass ratios (generally 5:1 >through 10:1). In these engines, a far higher proportion of air from the >low-pressure compressor is bypassed. Not quite right: A turbojet puts all of the air into the combustion chamber at one point or another. Turbofans duct some of this around and [barring an afterburner] never combust it. A Turbojet has a bypass ratio of zero. Turbofans can come with a bypass ratio of whatever they want. The 10 or 15:1 is for commercail engines...most military ones are much lower. >Fans provide much better fuel economy than turbojets, and are much quieter; >hence, this is where nearly all civil R&D is headed. The current "hot" >research topics are development of the unducted propfan, and development >of "small fans" (such as the International Aero Engines V.2500, which is being >sold as an option on the Airbus A320). Fans, however, tend to have poor >performance at very high speeds. Military aircraft tend to use turbojets. Fans have low performance at supersonic speeds relative to turbojets. Most military high-performance planes use low bypass turbofans, like the TF30 or F100 or F404. Pure turbojets are too fuel-guzzling, and the only plane [modern] that i know of using one was the MiG-25, which was designed for such high speeds [mach 3+] that it NEEDED a turbojet, because the turbofan effeciency drop really hits after mach two. ******************************************************************************* George William Herbert JOAT For Hire: Anything, Anywhere: My Price UCB Naval Architecture undergrad: Engineering with a Bouyant Attitude :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- gwh@ocf.berkeley.edu ||||||||||| "What do I have to do to convince you?"-Q gwh@soda.berkeley.edu ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| "Die."-Worf maniac@garnet.berkeley.edu||"Very good, Worf. Eaten any good books recently?"-Q