Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!umich!samsung!psuvax1!psuvm!auvm!FRCPN11!PHARABOD From: PHARABOD@FRCPN11.BITNET Newsgroups: bit.listserv.disarm-l Subject: Re: Who persecuted the Jews?????? Message-ID: Date: 21 Feb 90 19:08:42 GMT Sender: Disarmament Discussion List Reply-To: Disarmament Discussion List Lines: 17 Approved: NETNEWS@AUVM.BITNET Gateway Dimitri Vulis writes (Tue, 20 Feb 90 09:46:00 EDT): >Re genocide: if you read Solzhenitsyn, read the part about small ethnic >groups (crimean tartars, kalmyks, et al) being rounded up solely because >of their ethnicity, put onto trains and sent not into camps (which is where >Solzhenitsyn was, and he writes mostly about what he himself saw) but into >central asian desert. 60% of the deportees died during the deportation >itself, presumably mostly the children and the elderly. Agreed, I think I will add the Crimean Tatars and the Kalmyks on my list (however, was it a "systematic" killing? I mean: had a "final solution" been decided?) One has to be very careful when speaking of genocide. For example, there cannot be a genocide of "officers", because the officers are not an ethnic group - there are few women and no children, and they differ from the other men only by their profession. Also, though about 20% of the Poles have been killed by the Germans, it was not a genocide, because Hitler had not decided to kill all the Poles. Jean-Pierre Pharabod