Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!psuvax1!psuvm!auvm!FRCPN11!PHARABOD From: PHARABOD@FRCPN11.BITNET Newsgroups: bit.listserv.disarm-l Subject: Re: Who persecuted the Jews?????? Message-ID: Date: 22 Feb 90 20:53:19 GMT Sender: Disarmament Discussion List Reply-To: Disarmament Discussion List Lines: 23 Approved: NETNEWS@AUVM.BITNET Gateway Dimitri Vulis writes (Wed, 21 Feb 90 12:01:00 EDT): >I really don't recall the definition of genocide from the convention, but >I have no doubt that someone should look it up. There are three different >things involved here: >* An attempt to kill every member of a certain ethnic group (examples: Hitler >and the Jews, Hitler and the Gypsies, imprerial Russia and Siberian natives, >imprerial Russia and North-Caucasian natives, Turkey and Armenians (the latter >prompted by the previous)). >* An attempt to round up every member of a certain ethnic group and deport >them in some barely inhabitable place, which deportation kills most of them >(example: Hitler and the Jews before about 1943, Stalin and assorted Soviet >minorities between 1937 and 1949). >* An attempt to forcibly assimilate an ethnic group by executing or deporting >the more educated representatives and encouraging settlement by another >ethnic group. Dimitri, thanks for this very clear analysis and/or proposal. However, I will stick to the first definition. Otherwise, one could speak of genocide of the Sauk (1804-1832), Seminole (1832-1842), Cherokee (1838-1839 "Trail of Larms"), Potawatomi (1846), Modoc (1872-1877), Ute (1878-1881), Chiricahua Apache (1883-1886), etc.. And the USA would become one of the "genocidist" nations. Jean-Pierre Pharabod