Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!psuvax1!psuvm!auvm!ISUCARD!NGAVRIE From: NGAVRIE@ISUCARD.BITNET (515 Nick Gavrielatos 294-6887) Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas Subject: (no subject given) Message-ID: Date: 19 Feb 90 16:42:17 GMT Sender: The Hellenic Discussion List Reply-To: The Hellenic Discussion List Lines: 77 Approved: NETNEWS@AUVM.BITNET Gateway Subject: Apandhsh ston Giwrgo Papatheodorou: Giwrgo, sto stelnw auto kai san proswpiko gramma se periptwsh pou exeis hdh "autodiagrafei", alla epeidh to teleutaio sou gramma mou anebase kai emena to aima sto kefali, kai mias kai to esteiles sth lista, apandaw kai mesw tis listas, panda teleiws filika. Prin ligo ilthe h grammateas mas kai mas rwtise to ekshs: "What do compassionate men and UFO's have in common?" Den kseroume, leme. Mas leei "You always hear about them, but you never see them!". Wraio e? Mas thn efere! Phge na fygei, alla tin rwtaw kai egw! "What do soybeans and dildos have in common?" Den kserw mou leei! Ths lew kai egw "They are both substitute for meat...." Loipon megale, auto pou prospathw na pw, einai pws anamesa se tosh plaka pou ginetai sth lista kai pou mou thymise th grammatea mas, egw den exw dei misogynismo! Pws einai dynaton na mperdeuei kaneis tin katharh plaka, kai ton misogynismo. Ena anekdoto eipe kapoios, kai amesws na tou kopsoume koustoumaki, misogynismos leei. Den kserw poios to egrapse, den thymamai, alla egw to eida mono kai mono san katharh plaka. Twra gia tous allous pou lene gia droseres uparkseis, e, ti egine? Mipws theleis na tis poun "maramenes"? Ena koplimendo kanane ta paidia, den einai swsto na to onomasoume misogynismo re sy Giwrgo. Gia siga! Emena mou fainetai o monos logos pou stekei pou autodiagrafesai einai ta polla minimata(kai mono autos). Ola ta alla einai opws lene kai oi ithageneis, "excuses, excuses"! Ekeino pou me peirakse kapws einai pou enw men katadikazeis sxedon se thanato EPWNYMA(!) tria melh tis listas, legondas pws sou anebazoun to aima sto kefali, meta sto telos mas les >> Auta. Ta parapanw den anaferontai se sugkekrimena atoma Pou anaferondai re sy Giwrgo? Sth 0eia mou th xoreutria? Kanenas den anagkazei kanenan allon na aspastei th gnwmh tou enos h tou allou, alla bazondas se mia kathgoria deuterhs taksinomhshs tria epwnyma melh, den mou fanike katholou orthodokso. Ama den sou aresoun, min tous diabazeis, egw auto kanw gia opoious den goustarw. Giati na dimiourgoume dixasmous kai exthres? Kai kati allo. Se olo to gramma sou anaferese SE OLOUS MAS! >> 3) H psuxwsh sas me th 0hteia m'exei skasei, ka0ws >> kai ta diafora suntexniaka tertipia gia to bolema >> pou 0a 0elate na prw0hsete. Twra ti prospa0eite na >> kataferete kai poion na peisete, den kserw, pantws >> ola ta epixeirhmata einai aeras kopanistos. Aeras kopanistos re Giwrgo? Tis prospatheies gia mia sobarh kai dikaih lysh enos toso kautou thematos opws to stratiwtiko, tis gnwmes, tis upodeikseis, tis skepseis, ola auta pou egrapsan tosa atoma toses meres twra -ola auta- kai OLWN ta grammena epi tou thematos, ola aeras kopanistos einai re Giwrgo? As doume ligo kai to epomeno kommati: >> 2) H mataodoksia kai h autoikanopoihsh (kai upo thn >> ennoia ths malakias kai upo thn ennoia tou "self >> importance) den exei oria. Edw sou dinw to "benefit of the doubt", alla den sou krybw pws mou perase apo to myalo h skepsh "dhladh mas leei kai malakes twra?" Alla mallon kanw lathos, den to ennoises auto, etsi den einai? Den kserw, poly apogoiteutika simera, alla thelw na ksereis pws ola ta grafomena mou einai panda se teleiws filiko tono -- kai mono. Geia xara, elpizw na se ksanadoume sth lista, stenaxwriemai otan blepw melh na feugoun. Nikos Gavrielatos NGAVRIE@ISUCARD