Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!venera.isi.edu!smoliar From: smoliar@vaxa.isi.edu (Stephen Smoliar) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Another letter to the New York Review Message-ID: <12085@venera.isi.edu> Date: 28 Feb 90 16:51:47 GMT Sender: news@venera.isi.edu Reply-To: smoliar@vaxa.isi.edu.UUCP (Stephen Smoliar) Organization: USC-Information Sciences Institute Lines: 38 Summary: In article <3806@uceng.UC.EDU> dmocsny@uceng.UC.EDU (daniel mocsny) writes: > >I interpret this to mean that intelligence is not a point, but a >space, and arbitrarily many intelligences may exist. Thus a simulated >brain could perhaps deviate substantially from the behavior of the >real brain, and still appear to behave quite intelligently. There is >no one answer to the problem of intelligence, and we probably haven't >exhausted the possibilities yet. > I basically sympathize with this position and wish to consider the possibility that Dan has not gone far enough. That is, why should the mathematical concept of "space" be any better for trying to talk about patterns of behavior than "point" (beyond its capacity to indicate that we are not talking about a single thing)? We have a tendency to assume that every word can be associated with an OBJECT, but we may be deliberately confusing ourselves if we try to assume that intelligent behavior has the sort of object properties we associate with a loaf of bread or a jug of wine. I would argue that the temporal nature of behavior makes it quite a different "thing" to talk about (to the extent that WHAT HAPPENS over an interval of time--as opposed to the temporal interval itself--really constitute a "thing"). I suppose what I am trying to argue is that we tend to talk about properties which emerge from the dynamics of a complex system AS IF THEY WERE CONCRETE ARTIFACTS when we really have no justification for doing so. Rather than agonizing over the "nature of intelligence"--as if it were a "thing" which had a "nature"--perhaps we should be reviewing our vocabulary as it pertains to talking about ANY form of behavior. ========================================================================= USPS: Stephen Smoliar USC Information Sciences Institute 4676 Admiralty Way Suite 1001 Marina del Rey, California 90292-6695 Internet: smoliar@vaxa.isi.edu "Only a schoolteacher innocent of how literature is made could have written such a line."--Gore Vidal