Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!iuvax!uceng!dmocsny From: dmocsny@uceng.UC.EDU (daniel mocsny) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: illiterate society Message-ID: <3888@uceng.UC.EDU> Date: 6 Mar 90 00:46:55 GMT References: <808@odin.cs.hw.ac.uk> <1990Mar5.173358.25523@comm.WANG.COM> Organization: College of Engg., Univ. of Cincinnati Lines: 64 In article <1990Mar5.173358.25523@comm.WANG.COM> lws@comm.WANG.COM (Lyle Seaman) writes: >Well, what we would we do if telephones suddenly >disappeared (unlikely)? I imagine we'd write a lot more letters. And >our society _would_ be different. So I don't believe that society AS It's not unlikely at all, at least locally and temporarily. The telephone network has many critical exchanges whose failure can paralyze communications for tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of customers. Thanks to the general reliability of the phone system, these failures are rare. But they do occur, and the well-known result is bedlam and severe economic losses. If telephones suddenly disappeared, we would not simply "write a lot more letters." Rather, our entire financial and industrial systems would collapse within days if not hours, authorities would be unable to maintain order, and starvation would set into large cities within weeks. >WE NOW KNOW IT will rely on such a technology, I think that the society >produced as a result of the technology would unavoidably depend on it. Well yes, that is exactly true. As long as human population continues to increase, and social institutions become ever more complex, we need more technological inputs to keep the show running. Once we incorporate a technology, we can't simply pull the plug on it. We've already burned the bridge behind us. Our only choice is to press on, replacing each old technology with more effective new technologies. Or else allow 90% of the population to die. >On the other hand, it is doubtful that speech technology alone could >replace written language. The bandwidth of the visual channel is so >much greater than the bandwidth of the aural channel. Yes, spoken >language does convey certain nuances that written language may fail to >convey (sarcasm, for instance). But sarcasm is not usually an essential >feature of physics texts. Being able to control the rate of assimilation >is very important to understanding information-dense subjects, being able >to back up and re-read a phrase or a paragraph, easily and quickly. I find that I experience rapid fatigue listening to a technical discussion, whereas I can read the same level of material for hours if necessary. I suspect most of the problem stems from being unable to control the rate or content of the incoming data. Also, the spoken word is inherently serial data, whereas text + graphics can take on a parallel structure. For example, by laying out many text blocks on a desk or workstation screen, the information worker can establish a spatial framework for organizing and digesting complex information. Since humans are good at spatial reasoning, apparently the ability to associate glancing in a given location with obtaining a certain fact is a great adjunct to learning. Consider how transparent the menu structure of a familiar program can become. You can formulate "questions" for the machine simply by a mechanical movement or gesture. This may be easier than abstracting those questions into verbal queries. For a speech-based interface to be generally useful, it would have to contain at least some of the abilities of the human expert. The human expert is able to listen to the scrambled queries from the human client, deduce what the client is *really* asking, and then tell the client. But I don't know how the speech-based interface would derive an advantage over an equally smart graphics interface. Of course, in field and real-time applications, speech-based interfaces would be very useful, for the worker who doesn't have any free hands, must keep visual attention locked on real-world objects, or must receive alarm messages quickly. Dan Mocsny dmocsny@uceng.uc.edu