Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: wmartin@stl-06sima.army.mil (Will Martin) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Portable Office Phones Message-ID: <4703@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 2 Mar 90 19:52:18 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 55 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 142, Message 2 of 9 >[Moderator's Note: With cellular phones, the present law is you may >not listen to the conversation, period. You may not tune your radio to >a frequency used by celluar phones, period. You may not sell a radio >which has the capability of tuning to these frequencies, with certain >exceptions. You may not even be in possession of a radio thus enabled. I think the last two points are not quite right, but I may be wrong. I thought it was that the only actual receiving devices that are banned by the ECPA were ones that tuned *only* cellular-phone frequencies. Others, that happened to tune cell-phone channels in addition to other frequencies, were not restricted in any way. Thus the last point would be incorrect; otherwise everyone with an older TV that tuned UHF channels up to 83 would be in violation. The question of legal issues regarding removing cellular-frequency- tuning blocks that were built into a radio by the manufacturer has not yet really been addressed by the courts, I believe. Bob Grove, of Grove Enterprises, was pressured by Federal agents to stop advertising the service of restoring cellular coverage on scanners that had those frequencies blocked (the modification is usually a trivial diode snip or install, which controls the programming of the inboard microprocessor as to what frequencies it will accept for reception). He also stopped offering the mod to people who bought such scanners from his firm. But the *information* as to how to perform that mod is freely publishable and distributable. Bob did not fight the issue in court because of the cost and time involved, so the Feds won de facto, but the issue still can be raised by anyone with the resources and fortitude to fight the good fight and feed the lawyer-parasites that will profit from such an effort. The "you may not tune your radio to a frequency used by cellular phones" also needs a caveat. I believe the wording is actually that you are prohibited from *intentionally* tuning a cellular-phone conversation. Tuning across one while going from one end of the band to the other is not prohibited. [I was trying to retrieve the ECPA.1986 file from the Telecom archives before sending this, in order to be sure I get my facts straight, but I can't get any response from the archive system.] Regards, Will [Moderator's Note: Radio Shack also got a lot of pressure to make changes in the scanners they sell. You and John are correct in a couple of points: Old equipment on hand is not illegal. The manufacturing of new stuff is controlled. You no longer see a channel 83 spot on new televisions, for example. Older radios which can coincidentally tune cellular are okay, but newer radios have to be blocked. I don't think strictly speaking you are allowed to sell the older units, for the same reason Grove and Radio Shack are no longer allowed to sell them if they receive cellular. PT]