Xref: utzoo comp.lang.c:26437 comp.lang.c++:6692 comp.sys.ibm.pc:45491 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!uflorida!mephisto!ncar!tank!iitmax!cs551djc From: cs551djc@iitmax.IIT.EDU (Daniel Ciarlette) Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: RE Zortech problems Message-ID: <3433@iitmax.IIT.EDU> Date: 1 Mar 90 17:06:44 GMT References: <48cc3c8b.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> <00020@meph.UUCP> <1990Feb24.153640.11222@csustan.CSUStan.Edu> Reply-To: cs551djc@iitmax.iit.edu (Daniel Ciarlette) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology Lines: 25 Keywords: I also am a satisfied customer of Zortech. I am happy with their products. I think what Walter Bright was upset about was with the flame by the person who took the time to post complaints to the net and didn't take time to read the manual. The v1.07 manual stunk. The Zortech C++ v2.0 manuals are good. They're easy to read and understand. What happens when people see a multi- week thread on "re: Zortech problems" is they tend to forget it's just as good a product as others, it's just getting a little more attention because it's a thread not because it's terrible. I have not heard one compiler upgrade that went smooth for ANY company not just Zortech. Walter Bright reads and replies to people here. That's more service then I get from Borland and Microsoft. When Borland comes out with a C++ compiler I will upgrade because I like multiple compilers around. It helps me find my bugs by running the code through both. C++ isn't as easy to implement as a lot of people think. Also, since everyone using Zortech C++ (almost) is learning C++ they can't tell the Zortech bugs from C++ 2.0 weirdness from their own bugs. Just look at the Cfront bug listings. Since AT&T's Cfront has bugs why don't we just say that it's terrible, flame about it for a while and move to some other language? I've gotten as good or better from Zortech as I have from other compiler companies. Walter Bright wrote a fine compiler and I use it a lot. Some things could be better and I am sure they will be better. Dan Ciarlette