Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcsun!unido!mikros!mwtech!martin From: martin@mwtech.UUCP (Martin Weitzel) Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: C Community's Cavalier Attitude On Software Reliability Keywords: Unprofessional Irresponsible Message-ID: <679@mwtech.UUCP> Date: 1 Mar 90 09:25:05 GMT References: <8147@hubcap.clemson.edu> <1990Feb28.063643.13294@Jhereg.Minnetech.MN.ORG> <15213@bfmny0.UU.NET> Reply-To: martin@mwtech.UUCP (Martin Weitzel) Organization: MIKROS Systemware, Darmstadt/W-Germany Lines: 21 In article <15213@bfmny0.UU.NET> tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET (Tom Neff) writes: >I think what Bill Wolfe is getting at is this: C and UNIX derive from a >milieu where admitting fallibility is not a sin because the "consumers" >are programmers, whose competence, understanding and goodwill are >assumed; and where explaining bugs up front is considered a plus, >because it saves programmer time later on. > >By contrast, "big computer company" tradition emphasizes the *appearance* >of infallibility -- never admit bugs up front because your competition [rest deleted] I'll tell an anecdote on this: One big german company (Siemens), which steped into the UNIX business around 1984, had to offer unix courses for their customers. A true unix guru wrote some kind of textbook for the courses. It started with the two pages "advantages of unix" and "disadvantages of unix". The latter was canceled by the sales departement, because "a Siemens product has no disadvantages". -- Martin Weitzel, email: martin@mwtech.UUCP, voice: 49-(0)6151-6 56 83