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From: edt@microsoft.UUCP (Ed THARP)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Subject: Re: Allegro Composer vs SUN SPE
Message-ID: <51097@microsoft.UUCP>
Date: 28 Feb 90 16:09:03 GMT
References: <8598@bunny.GTE.COM>
Reply-To: edt@microsoft.UUCP (Ed THARP)
Organization: Microsoft Corp., Redmond WA
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In article <8598@bunny.GTE.COM> mw06@GTE.COM (Mark Weissman) writes:
>Hello,
>
>	Is there anyone out there using Allegro Composer or SUN SPE.
>I need to choose fairly quickly between these or some other 
>lisp development environment running on a SUN sparkstation.  I'll be
>happy to post a summary of responses.
>
>Thanks,
>Mark Weissman
>weissman@bunny.gte.com

I used to work for a company tried SPE.  The drawback then was you had to
use Sunview and wasn't overly impressive to the ex-Symbolics hackers.  We
wanted to develop GUIs and preferred X Window System.  Then we got Composer 
and thought it was great.  It ran under X and had a reasonable programming
environment but wasn't object-orientated.  

Finally, we hit upon Harlequin's Lispworks after seeing them at IJCAI at 
Detroit.  Lispworks is CLUE based with an excellent development environment.  
The drawback is that it is a relatively new system and some of the finer 
points, like extensive documentation, isn't there yet, but I have found them 
to be very cooperative and willing to incoporate new (your) ideas.  I have 
forgotten their address, but I know Chris Richardson of Harlequin reads this 
group.

All of these development environments are going to have a bit of trouble
running in 8 meg. and would prefer at least 16.  One final note, my
experiences are probably a little dated.  New releases occur frequently, so
you'll have to check out the latest.

Ed Tharp
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