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From: amy@lloyd.camex.uucp (Amy Lindsay)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: Worry: Using Exotic Fonts
Message-ID: <646@lloyd.camex.uucp>
Date: 2 Mar 90 21:31:51 GMT
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>In article <1134@kosman.UUCP> kevin@kosman.UUCP (Kevin O'Gorman) writes:
>>You cannot legally include most fonts with your documents, after all,
>>so it is natural to be concerned about such things.

Another Kevin (kevinc@cs.AthabascaU.CA (Kevin Crocker)) then asks about what
to do if you use a very specific font, but your publishing house won't buy it
because they won't use it again.

(Aside: there is a difference between a "publishing house" and a "type house."
A "type house" is someone who typesets your manuscript.  After that, you're
responsible for printing, distribution, marketing, etc.  Since I am most
familiar with those people, that's who I'm going to talk about.)

  In "The Industry" (my, don't I sound hoity-toity?) if you design a book,
and use a font which your type house doesn't have, you have only a few options

    1. Paste-up. (REAL paste-up, with boards and x-acto(tm) knives.)

    2. Buy the font FOR the type house. (depends on your budget, but I've
       been a part of projects which did this.)

    3. Or you can "pirate" copy of the font. (which NOBODY in this group
       would DREAM of doing because it is such a ROTTEN EVIL NASTY AWFUL
       thing, aside from being illegal.)

  So, if you decide on option 1, you will have to flag your document so they
know where to do the paste-up, and if you use option 2, you won't.  And if
you opt for 3, all of us who get angry about such things will come to your
house and break your legs.

  You talk about typesetters who WILL not spring for the typeface you want,
which is certainly not out of the ordinary, but usually can be worked around
if you offer to buy them the font (after all, your life will end if you do
not use this typeface, right?)  If you have chosen a font which does not have
an equivalent counterpart in their typesetting environment, usually #1 is the
only way to go.

  And, of course, there's the option of going to another type house, (which,
I admit, is not always an option with a publisher.)

  It doesn't matter to a PRINTER (i.e. the company printing your book)
whether the pages are "set in place" or are pasted up.  I can talk about that
particular aspect, but is not really related to this group.
                                     --amy
                                     "Have straight-edge, will travel."
A.G.Lindsay
Typography & Design Department				husc6!lloyd!amy
Camex, Inc. ~ Boston, MA		    amy%lloyd@husc6.harvard.edu
	    Camex pays me to work with letters, not words.
     "Up...secret of flight (see also "down," secret of crash.)"