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From: woods@ncar.ucar.edu (Greg Woods)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: How to deal with a recalcitrant postmaster?
Message-ID: <6459@ncar.ucar.edu>
Date: 28 Feb 90 21:40:12 GMT
References: <KARL.90Feb22095055@giza.cis.ohio-state.edu>
Reply-To: woods@handies.UCAR.EDU (Greg Woods)
Organization: Scientific Computing Division/NCAR, Boulder CO
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In article <KARL.90Feb22095055@giza.cis.ohio-state.edu> karl_kleinpaste@giza.cis.ohio-state.edu writes:
>My
>forwardings to postmaster@Ven.dor have gotten alternately flammable
>and sarcastic, but nothing has helped so far.

  As a fellow postmaster, the one thing I can 100% GUARANTEE is that this will 
be ineffective. Anyone who abuses me from outside my organization has all
their mail sent to /dev/null (note that I am capable of seeing the difference
between abuse and constructive criticism; the latter is always welcomed,
because occasionally some of those suggestions are good ones!).

  I wasn't quite clear on the exact situation you are talking about. If the
site you are trying to reach via the ven.dor in question is really paying
ven.dor to provide this service, that's one thing; otherwise ven.dor has
NO OBLIGATION to forward your mail. If the service is that bad, then I'd
recommend that the people you are trying to get to find another place to
connect to. I've had some of my downstream UUCP mail sites bitch about some
of  our policies; my answer is that if they don't like the service we provide
to them FOR FREE, AT ZERO BENEFIT TO US, they are free to subscribe to UUNET 
and PAY for service they will be entitled to bitch about, or else find another
sucker, er, connection with policies more to their liking. Good luck.
  Now, as to whether ven.dor should make an attempt to provide these services
as a PR measure, that's another issue. My point is that, unless this is a
paid-for service, they are under no OBLIGATION to do so nor to respond to
abuse from outsiders.

--Greg