Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!ucsd!ucsdhub!hp-sdd!ncr-sd!ncrcae!sauron!stevem From: stevem@sauron.Columbia.NCR.COM (Steve McClure) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware Subject: Re: One more Amiga RAM question. ;*) Message-ID: <2021@sauron.Columbia.NCR.COM> Date: 28 Feb 90 13:07:00 GMT References: <928@orange9.qtp.ufl.edu> Reply-To: stevem@sauron.UUCP (Steve McClure) Distribution: na Organization: E&M-Columbia, NCR Corp, W Columbia, SC Lines: 51 In article <928@orange9.qtp.ufl.edu> sutherla@qtp.ufl.edu (scott sutherland) writes: > > > Well, I have asked several questions about memory expansion and >the Amiga, specifically w.r.t. the A2091 and A2630. Now I am more >informed AND more confused. What I have been told is that, for the >A2091, I need 16 256K x 4 CMOS DRAM 120 ns chips for 2 Megs. I can find >these in Computer Shopper for ~8 ea. Now, for the A2630, I have been >told that I need, get this, 256K x 4 CMOS DRAM 100 ns chips (or faster). >NOW I AM REALLY CONFUSED. > The key here is that memory is memory. 8-bit, 16-bit, 32-bit all refer to the number of bits that can be accessed in one read, in other words in parallel. The chips you need are 256Kx4, x4 means 4 bits in parallel. Therefore you need 4 chips to have memory that is accessable 16 bits at a time. This means you should be able to populate the board in 256K/2*4 increments. ^^^^^^ it takes two chips to make 8 bits or a byte. There is some organization to the chips. The most popular being 256Kx4 and 1Mx1 in 1 megabit chips. The design of the board determines how many bits can be accessed in parallel. > A couple of extra questions. I have been told that I MUST use CMOS >chips and not NMOS chips. None of the places in the Computer Shopper >specify whether the chips they list are CMOS or NMOS. How do I differentiate? >And finally, Dave Haynie told me that the chips for the A2630 were NOT only >256K x 4 CMOS DRAM 100 ns chips, BUT that they must be in the ZIP package. > >What in the world is a ZIP package??? Again, none of the advertisers in CS >mention anything about ZIP!! They mentions SIMMS, but NO ZIPS. Why do I need >ZIP? How do I determine if a chip advertised in CS is ZIP or not??? > Chips come in different packages, or physical designs: Dual Inline Package - DIP's pins are in two parallel rows. ....... ....... Zig-Zag Inline Package - ZIP's pins are in one row, slightly offset. . . . . . . . . A host of others. You usually have to ask about package styles and chip types. Typically, the parts you see advertized in CS are CMOS DIP's for this chip type. Steve ----- Steve.McClure@Columbia.NCR.COM The above are my opinions, which NCR doesn't really care about anyway! CAUSER's Amiga BBS! | 803-796-3127 | 8pm-8am 8n1 | 300/1200/2400