Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!cbmvax!daveh From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: Question on pre-production 68030's. Message-ID: <9904@cbmvax.commodore.com> Date: 1 Mar 90 03:35:30 GMT References: <9613@unix.SRI.COM> Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA Lines: 34 In article <9613@unix.SRI.COM> henry@ginger.sri.com (Henry A. Pasternack) writes: >I noticed that the part number is XC68030RC25A, not "MC", >which, I would guess, makes it a pre-production chip. > I am tempted to return the part because it was represented >to me as a "68030", which I suppose it is, in some sense. On >the other hand, I have no idea what kinds minor functional >problems this chip may have, if I am correct in interpreting >the "XC" designation as meaning pre-release. XC certainly indicates that the part's design may not have been validated when the part was actually made, but it doesn't necessarily say anything bad about it either. I don't recall the official Motorola line on what it means, but I've never found it a big problem. I have an unmarked, supposedly room temperature 25MHz 68030 around here somewhere that's never shown any bugs (and for that matter, works just fine in a hot system, though I suppose the room temperature rating is more an indication of where it may be expected to be a fully speced 25MHz part). Motorola should have a bug sheet on that part if there are any bugs, which I would think pretty unlikely given my experience with early 68030s. We got XC68851s for years after Motorola started making the part and never found a problem there either, at least with the 68030 compatible instructions. >-Henry -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Systems Engineering) "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: hazy BIX: hazy Too much of everything is just enough