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From: barnett@grymoire.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: XView application without olcursor?
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Date: 6 Mar 90 19:24:17 GMT
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In article <132555@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> hvr@sun.UUCP (Heather Rose) writes:

|>However, when I run this application on an
|>X terminal without the OpenLook cursor "olcursor" installed, the program
|>terminates with an error.
|
|xset [-display display] +fp $XVIEWHOME/lib/X11/fonts/xview/misc
|
|does not add the open look fonts to your X11 server?  All X11R4 compatible
|servers should have these loaded in the default locations...

We have several different types of X terminals. There are several
different ways to download the fonts. Also - some fonts have to be
built to match the architecture, and installed by the system manager.

In another case, I had to FTP the fonts to a Macintosh and run a Mac
program  before I could run the XView application. This is not
something I expect end users to know how to do.

The point is - OpenLook fonts are currently non-standard.
The mechanism needed to download the fonts are non-standard.
If I write an OpenLook application that will run in a heterogeneous
environment, I cannot say it will run on any X terminal or server.
The system administrator or principle user must do something special
before they can run the OL application.

I no longer have a simple X program that can be used by anyone
with a simple server. I have to teach secretaries, corporate managers,
system managers etc. the commands needed to download the fonts.
Each product might require a new procedure.


Fonts aren't really the problem. I can specify "standard" fonts.

The problem is "olglyth" and "olcursor". These "fonts" are hardwired
into the application. I would like to have a means that
	a) detects if "olglyth" and "olcursor" are available.
	b) if not, then do something in my program that will
	   allow the program to be useful, but with limited functionality.

	I could decide not to use a scrollbar, if olcursor were not
	available. Or use a server image, if I knew how.

I can do step a. But it might be a useful extension to XView
if I can either provide the fonts from the client side, or
download the fonts into the server.




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