Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!sunic!lth.se!newsuser From: bengtl@maths.lth.se (Bengt Larsson) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: Various topics Message-ID: <1990Mar3.052721.14102@lth.se> Date: 3 Mar 90 05:27:21 GMT References: <_DW17VCxds8@ficc.uu.net> <59198@ccicpg.UUCP> <::X1644xds8@ficc.uu.net> <59391@ccicpg.UUCP> Sender: newsuser@lth.se (LTH network news server) Reply-To: bengtl@maths.lth.se (Bengt Larsson) Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden Lines: 41 In article peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes: >Actually, I was expecting a flood of votes from Richard Sexton and friends >putting my VOTE(*) firmly on the sci side as well. >--- >(*) As Brad Templeton frequently points out, the words "poll", "vote", and >"survey" as used on Usenet are effectively equivalent. What Brad likes to point out isn't what it's called but what it *IS*. (He's saying that our "votes" are really not "votes" but "surveys". Maybe he's right. Anyway, he seems to think that a "survey" is something different from a "vote"). > Are you really slamming >me because I didn't utter the magic incantations right? Amazing. I'd expected >to be slammed for using STV rather than a yes/no poll. We are slamming you because you misled people into thinking that you were NOT gathering an official vote, but rather doing a poll just to see what people thought about the subject. And of course it matters how things are done. How can you put so many hours and so many messages into discussing different kinds of surveys and then say that IT SIMPLY DOESN'T MATTER when it comes to yourself taking a vote??? *Of course* you should have posted your vote the formal (guidelines-) way if that's what you wanted to do. Isn't that obvious? Why can't you just admit that you did something wrong and then be done with it? Or apologize for being unclear? Do you even _know_ how to apologize? >Followups requested to be directed to /dev/null. There is no magic idiocy in >the header... I have this quixotic belief that if you treat people like adults >they'll behave like adults. I don't expect to convince anyone of anything with >this message, but I don't care to have revisionist history stand uncallenged. And stop giving us this "I'm so very grown up and reasonable and you should be too"-thing! Self-appraise stinks. -- Bengt Larsson - Dep. of Math. Statistics, Lund University, Sweden Internet: bengtl@maths.lth.se SUNET: TYCHE::BENGT_L