Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!cbnewsc.ATT.COM From: tjr@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (thomas.j.roberts) Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end Subject: Re: Trimming MSB on DAC Message-ID: <2653@uwm.edu> Date: 28 Feb 90 18:15:34 GMT Sender: news@uwm.edu Lines: 45 Approved: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu > > In article <2589@uwm.edu> @sun.acs.udel.edu:hamilton@sun.acs.udel.edu (hamilton) writes: >> >>I read in the current issue of CD Review that it is possible to adjust the >>trim pots on the D-A convertors of a CD player to improve linearity. >> ... Linearity below -100dB is >>something found only in the most costly CD players, and maybe in the new >>1-bit machines. Does anyone know what is needed to perform the adjustment? >>Can it be done by the average joe? This is a difficult adjustment to make, and one that only "purists" would bother with (by "purist" I mean someone who is more concerned with talking about a system than listening to it ... :-). There is no hope of making this adjustment on normal music. You will need a CD with special test tones (namely a very quiet sinewave, -60 to -80 dB below full scale). In virtually all cases, leaving the trimmer alone (or at its center position) will suffice. I have a 16-bit homebrew music synthesizer, and a 16-bit ADC, both installed within a PC. The DAC has an MSB trimmer. I cannot hear the effect of the trimmer on normal-volume music or sinewaves. The ADC (used as an oscilloscope) cannot see it on normal-volume sinewaves. When I run the DAC on a -72dB sinewave (wrt full-scale), and crank up the gain in the speaker amp, I can barely hear the MSB adjustment when it is at its extreme ends (pulling the MSB out of true by about 4 LSB counts) [note this "sinewave" has only 10 levels]. The ADC oscilloscope (single sweep) has considerable noise at this level (1 LSB = 0.08 millivolts), but I can infer the steps of the "sinewave"; I have not bothered to write the multiple-sweep averaging software required to reduce the noise to the level needed to see the effect. This is with the ADC Sample/Hold connected directly to the DAC output, and differing sampling rates of the DAC (50 kHz) and ADC (33 kHz) complicate the observation; looking after the DAC output filter washes out the steps, and makes the trimmer effect invisible. The DAC is specified to have THD <0.1% WITHOUT TRIMMING; I believe it (I installed the trimmer when I was having linearity problems - they turned out to be completely unrelated to the DAC or its trimming). I simply leave the trimmer in the middle of its range, and am happy. Tom Roberts att!ihlpl!tjrob